Edmundson may be cool for a 4th but I’m not trading Comtois+ for Ylonen

just did bud

Hope you are ready to get wrecked for that Flyers trade...literally nothing of value there, it's all quantity and not good quantity either.

Agreed
I mean that Hart Return beats out Voukouns for biggest overpay for a Goalie in Recorded History.
For a dude who's only asset is his "Potential to be a Franchise Goalie" said by foolish people on here too often in PHI Fanbase.
Reality is he's no more a Starter then Montembault and struggled to show up despite more chances (Monty was stuck behind Knight/Bobrovsky in FLA for years)

If im paying that for a Goalie
I think it would have to be basically Shesterkin maybe ish or Vasilevsky
Outside that no goalie in the NHL is worth that without some pretty crazy RS scenarios or something


Take out the Cap Dumps and that might buy MTL Keller because its the 5th and 37th OA picks going with Mesar and Harris.
But no way it buys him Crouse too who was the first player not on an ELC for GM B.Armstrong to award Longterm Contract to.
If he did ,it wouldnt be as a throw in with a free 3rd for 2 cap cumps like Hoffman and Allen

Bascially feels like me trying to buy a car negotiating a Price then showing up with half Canadian Tire money trying to argue it has equal value lol

guess you don't watch hockey

Name me the top 3 highest Goalie Returns in Recorded History and their Value.
I find people understand Context Better when they have to do the Leg Work.
Unless Hart is a Vezina Finalist this year there's no value 5 years in with 1 year left and only 7 required for UFA with a 4.479m QO playing like Allen or Halak.
The window is too small and he's not playing well enough for that type of Gamble

There is NO reason for the Flyers to trade Hart without an overpay with good assets. You don't just get to trade for players because you want them without realize the other teams needs/wants.

Briere disagree's

LMFAO, he absolutely does not...Briere said he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't answer the phone, nowhere did he say he was looking to move Hart. Actually, I believe he said "I think Hart will be our goalie for a long time" or something to that effect.

Since when does Philly, a terrible team with an even worse prospect pool, not need first round picks, 2/3 c prospects, and a top four 21 year old RD?

lmao do you watch hockey or just play chel? this is an outrageously bad take. Philly takes this and runs

You are right, all your prospects work out all the time! You know like Kotkaniemi...remember when MTL fans said he was a 1C? We have Frost and Cates that look to be our 2/3C for a very long time...you know, because they are young.

All jokes aside if your belief was true about his Value Briere would protect him no matter who's choice he was.
Bergavin did with Price who when he arrived was up and down struggling to find consistency just like Hart but not nearly as bad.
MB invested in him and he became what we saw later in life.

Why Price?
He couldnt get as much for him as Halak in the Open Market even though he tried.
At the time due to his Sweep in the Playoffs and overall inconsistent play no one wanted to pay what MB needed
Maybe like us you'll get lucky in the fact that no one is willing to offer you unlimited value for Potential on a going on 6th year Pro
Its different if its his 2nd or 3rd year but 6 and this is where he's at. . . . I mean Team Canada chose Montembault over Hart FFS despite Hart making his name playing for them early on

Hart wasn't allowed to play...you know the whole Hockey Canada thing...but great job trying to change the narrative.

By Comparison, Yup
That's even factoring in the 6 years where only Gally, and Lehkonen can be called Success's and Chucky/Beaulieu considered just above a Bust.
I mean i think Hughes drafted more Winners in his only draft then PHI from the point they chose not to take Caufield until now

Oh so because Philly didn't take Caulfield, all our prospects are now bad? Do you people hear yourselves? MTL is so far behind the Flyers right now it's hilarious that you think you are in a better spot.

Thats something i needed you to say though
I couldnt have you Defending his actions
Given the Contrarian that you are , i knew you would.
Much easier to just think ahead all the while Driving home my Favorite Point
Montembault>Hart (you didnt find it odd i made it about World Cup Choosing not to use him ? haha)

Yeah and kotkaniemi turned out to be a very integral part of carolina's conference final run this year. beck and kapanen are 18 and 19 for crying out loud

No its a timeline i gave saying since then they have not been great.
If we're being honest though 2016 when you got Hart was the last clear cut time you had Success at the Draft.
After that it was little to no success at all
But if i can bait you while rubbing some salt in the wound about Caufield while i do it , all the better lol


https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007439.html

The cartwheels you Habs fans try to pull trying to defend your atrocious draft picking is hilarious.

TBF he was key to ours too
I think it was the game 6 OT winner vs TML
That after a huge Game 5 effort to help turn the tide.

We talk some smack about him as he left and was a jerk about it while doing it
But we'd have gladly kept him if he wanted to stay

Our Draft history head to head with yours 2016 - now we have WAY More NHL games then your guys do

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007439.html

much further ahead. i couldn't name a big philly prospect outside of gauthier. draft/development team sucks

So you are going to base your prospects off games played since 2016 knowing that the Flyers were a better team for that entire stretch and had actual NHLers in their lineup for the large majority of that time? Got it...thanks for your input.

Thanks, I already know that...who is MTL's big prospect, Slafkovsky? The guy that shouldn't have gone top 5 last year? Or is it Hutson, the guy that got walked by Germany and Latvia?

I don't think he was a jerk. Carolina offered him a career changing contract and he took it. just like Markov and radulov. Bergy refused to put pen to paper and it worked out for the other team. I am happy for KK.