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Pitts 14 Again

Created by: MNBassman
Team: 2023-24 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2023
Published: Jun. 21, 2023
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This is definitely a win now move for Pitt. Please assess this trade both with and without Granlund being involved…I truly have no idea what his value is…
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
3$1,250,000
3$3,775,000
3$775,000
2$775,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. 2023 4th round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Wherever…
DET
  1. Foligno, Marcus
  2. 2023 5th round pick (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Hartman, Ryan
  2. Zuccarello, Mats
Additional Details:
Upon further review, I took the 2nd and the retention on Zuccarello out of the deal. I didn’t realize how bad Granlund’s contract is…
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,076,088$0$850,000$3,423,912
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kaprizov, Kirill
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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Waivers ExemptRossi, Marco
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 2
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Granlund, Mikael
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Johansson, Marcus
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Eriksson Ek, Joel
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 6
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Boldy, Matthew
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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Waivers ExemptBeckman, Adam
$894,167$894,167
LW
RFA - 1
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Gaudreau, Frédérick
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C, LW
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UFA - 5
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Duhaime, Brandon
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Steel, Sam
$875,000$875,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Dewar, Connor
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Reaves, Ryan
$850,000$850,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Giroux, Damien
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Middleton, Jake
$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Fleury, Marc-André
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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Brodin, Jonas
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Waivers ExemptFaber, Brock
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Gustavsson, Filip
$3,775,000$3,775,000
G
UFA - 3
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Merrill, Jon
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Addison, Calen
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
RFA - 1
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Goligoski, Alex
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Shaw, Mason
$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 1

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Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: jfkst1
I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.


For me it's that last part. Seems like a rebuild move for the Wild. I can't imagine that going over well with the lockeroom. The fan base might understand, BUT if you're going to rebuild...don't half A$$ a rebuild. Tear it down all the way or expect to live in playoff purgatory. Always getting in, but never advancing.
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: jfkst1
I don't think it is unfair value. Not sure Dubas wants to give up the 14th in this strong draft for two rentals and a 2nd. Also have to figure Guerin is rebuilding if he trades away Hartman.


All valid points! I am almost always a far-sighted “GM” but think Dubas would be a moron not to take one more big swing while Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are still relevant!
Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
For me it's that last part. Seems like a rebuild move for the Wild. I can't imagine that going over well with the lockeroom. The fan base might understand, BUT if you're going to rebuild...don't half A$$ a rebuild. Tear it down all the way or expect to live in playoff purgatory. Always getting in, but never advancing.


I agree with everything you just said…however, the Wild’s owner, Craig Leipold is old and impatient…and he would never sign off on a total rebuild…even if it is the right thing to do!
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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All valid points! I am almost always a far-sighted “GM” but think Dubas would be a moron not to take one more big swing while Crosby, Malkin, and Letang are still relevant!


The problem in this scenario is that it is 2024 for the last hurrah then a rebuild is necessary. FSG at least expects to try for the postseason the next two years and then at the earliest start the rebuild when Crosby's contract expires.
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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The problem in this scenario is that it is 2024 for the last hurrah then a rebuild is necessary. FSG at least expects to try for the postseason the next two years and then at the earliest start the rebuild when Crosby's contract expires.


Both players could be resigned, Zucc at considerably cheaper and Hartman for a fairly considerable raise.
Jun. 21, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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I think I’d do this as a pens fan. This takes care of 3 needs in 1 trade. A reasonably priced middle 6 winger, a massive upgrade at 3C for much cheaper than we will find in FA, and gets them out of a Granlund buyout/dead cap situation. It also frees up money for next season when the cap should start to skyrocket making room for Guentzel and Hartman extensions.
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 7:22 p.m.
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Having picks 14, 21 & 53 would be awesome. I don’t really know if it’s worth taking on Granlund’s contract while simultaneously making the team much worse. Also, trading away Kirill’s linemates (including his best friend) and entering a half assed rebuild doesn’t seem like a great idea to me
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 7:25 p.m.
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Strictly talking value here, I wouldn’t add Hartman and Zucc with retention to that Granlund deal. His contract is… not good, to put it nicely
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Jun. 21, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Strictly talking value here, I wouldn’t add Hartman and Zucc with retention to that Granlund deal. His contract is… not good, to put it nicely


Has his game gone to crap that much? Sad if true. I figured he could find a resurgence playing on a line with Kaprizov, maybe…
Jun. 21, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
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Has his game gone to crap that much? Sad if true. I figured he could find a resurgence playing on a line with Kaprizov, maybe…


I mean, maybe? But if I were Bill Guerin, I wouldn’t bet on it. Especially at that price
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