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Rumblings Ullmark to PIT

Created by: jpetes250
Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
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    What is PIT willing to pay?
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    2025
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    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    13$83,500,000$65,562,500$4,500,000$0$17,937,500
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    LW
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    UFA - 2
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    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $11,250,000$11,250,000
    RW
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    UFA - 8
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
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    $762,500$762,500
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LD
    NTC, NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
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    $3,687,500$3,687,500
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    $1,137,500$1,137,500
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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    Based on how Dubas just robbed Vegas, pucker up Sweeney.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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    2024 2nd and a prospect like Ty Smith or sam Poulin
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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    A couple PIT beat guys. Not sure how much weight there is, but would not be surprised.
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
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    Ik this is very farfetched, but unless this years 1st or Crosby are involved, very little interest there
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: princessTom
    Ik this is very farfetched, but unless this years 1st or Crosby are involved, very little interest there


    Yes, that is very far fetched. Sweeney has no cap space and can't field a full roster so other GMs aren't offering lottery picks or franchise centers.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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    Yes, that is very far fetched. Sweeney has no cap space and can't field a full roster so other GMs aren't offering lottery picks or franchise centers.


    Yes im very aware of Bostons cap situation and very aware of the pieces of interest i mentioned

    It was merely to show how little interest a PIT return would be
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: princessTom
    Ik this is very farfetched, but unless this years 1st or Crosby are involved, very little interest there


    Lol pass me whatever you are smoking please
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Lol pass me whatever you are smoking please


    Lol pens fans cant take a joke
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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    What did the last vezina winner who was immediately dumped for cap reasons get as a return ??
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: princessTom
    Yes im very aware of Bostons cap situation and very aware of the pieces of interest i mentioned

    It was merely to show how little interest a PIT return would be


    You should be concerned. Dubas just stole Smith from Vegas for a 2024 3rd rounder. Guessing it would be something similar for Ullmark which obviously is way below fair value. Then again, both Smith and Ullmark have NTCs that likely make it impossible to get fair value.
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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    Lol pens fans cant take a joke


    As much as i want to see the bergy, marchand, and sid line re-united I would much rather it in a penguins uniform
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: princessTom
    Ik this is very farfetched, but unless this years 1st or Crosby are involved, very little interest there


    I think a '23 1st would have to be involved, even if that means getting a third team in the mix.
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: pensburgh571
    What did the last vezina winner who was immediately dumped for cap reasons get as a return ??


    To be fair that's the Mickiest Vezina of all time. Played the majority of his games against the '21 Kings, Ducks, Sharks and Coyotes. There was no market for him, he only had 1 year left and was making more.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: jfkst1
    You should be concerned. Dubas just stole Smith from Vegas for a 2024 3rd rounder. Guessing it would be something similar for Ullmark which obviously is way below fair value. Then again, both Smith and Ullmark have NTCs that likely make it impossible to get fair value.


    Modified NTCs* but yes Ullmark could just list 16 teams in desperate need of a starting goalie and tie Sweeneys hands

    Not really concerned, there are other moves that could be made to create cap space before "dumping" Ullmark for a below value return, its just whether Sweeney does those moves or an Ulmark move
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: jpetes250
    I think a '23 1st would have to be involved, even if that means getting a third team in the mix.


    Oh it would never happen, just showing how little interest there is
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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    As much as i want to see the bergy, marchand, and sid line re-united I would much rather it in a penguins uniform


    Loved that line. Well always have the 2016 World Cup to look back on
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: princessTom
    Modified NTCs* but yes Ullmark could just list 16 teams in desperate need of a starting goalie and tie Sweeneys hands

    Not really concerned, there are other moves that could be made to create cap space before "dumping" Ullmark for a below value return, its just whether Sweeney does those moves or an Ulmark move


    I think fans underestimate how strategic players are with their NTCs. Smith only had a 10 team restricted list and PIT was probably the only one that could afford him and was interested. Ullmark with a 15 team list can almost make it a complete NMC if he is strategic about it. PIT has also been a highly desirable org. Same as BOS. In fact, no player I'm aware of has blocked a trade to PIT in the Crosby era.
     
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