Fair value, but Jersey fans will rip you up.

As a Jets fan, I would hope this is a package Chevy would consider.

Other than the Miller trade, which is widely regarded as an awful deal, has any goalie ever gotten a return of this size?

If you say yes, then you're far too low on Holtz

Holtz for Hellebuyck would have to be one for one, or without anything else of significant value included

It's just a 1st and a decent prospect, Vanacek has little vakue and is just there for cap. So, it's fair.

Holtz is the most overrated ting

If you think Holtz is overrated then you should pick a different prospect to include in the trade

Holtz is far more than a decent prospect. Pick someone else.
Vanecek has value. He was a perfectly good 1A last season. If he were for sale I'd expect him to be worth at least a 2nd, since he went for a 3rd last summer and then had a career best year.

Bro, a vezina winning goalie for a D+2 prospect who still hasn't cracked the NHL roster? You are criminally underrating Hellebuyck

A 20 year old prospect with top 6 potential who is only a year removed from a point per game AHL season for a 31 year old rental goalie asking for an 8x9.5m extension, on top of a first round pick and a 1A quality goalie? No thanks

Just because Vanecek would need to go the other way doesn’t mean he has little value. Career high games played, career high save%, career high GAA. This narrative is as bad as y’all calling Holtz overrated lol

Im good, stop panic trading for a goalie to the devs. They arent trading for one or signing one, let it die its almost august and we keep panicing about their goalies... Time to more on.