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Cooley and Dumba

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 27, 2023
Published: Jul. 27, 2023
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Is anyone else seeing what I am seeing?

This forward group is SUPER deep. That might be the best 4th line in the league. Of course they have a ton of youth in the top end of their line up, so they may be inconsistent. But this team has the potential on forward to do some SERIOUS damage.

I like their goaltending.

Defence is super unproven but they have a lot of really good young pieces. I think adding a guy like Dumba would be a perfect fit. This is where I see a lot of question marks. But all the question marks here are highly thoughted, gifted young guys. It may pan out, but it may crash and burn.

They would need a lot of guys to take a step up and they would need a guy like Cooley to play at a star level but.... I am saying that they could push for a playoff spot. It's unlikely but I can see it happening, if best case scenario plays out for them.

This team has a very scary future.

Well played Arizona management... Well played.

What are your thoughts?
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Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Name me one really good piece on the back end outside Simashev ...
Maybe Durzi, but he ain't a top pairing dman
Moser and Valimaki are decent, maybe one could turn into a solid top 4 dman
Soderstrom as a lot to prove
Lamoureux have 3rd pairing ceiling
Duda is a good prospect but not really good

They are stacked on offense tho, I will give them credit
Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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Name me one really good piece on the back end outside Simashev ...
Maybe Durzi, but he ain't a top pairing dman
Moser and Valimaki are decent, maybe one could turn into a solid top 4 dman
Soderstrom as a lot to prove
Lamoureux have 3rd pairing ceiling
Duda is a good prospect but not really good


Durzi has high end potential.
Soderstrom was 11th overall a few years ago
Vasllimaki was 16th overall from a few years ago
Moser had a decent year last year.
Simashev was 6th overall this year (I doubt we see him for a few years)
Lamoureux was their 1st round pick last year.

The D as currently constructed has a lot of question marks. If they all play to their potential, they will be a lot of fun. If not, this team crashes and burns and they get another good pick.

They just need to hit on 1-2 of those guys I listed, and this team starts shaping up nicely. Free ageency and trades are always an option to fill other slots. And they have a TON of currency to do so (hence Durzi trade).

I think Dumba adds to this group a lot.

If I am Arizona management, I am clearly focusing on acquiring more defensive pieces. But I am still very happy to run out this group to see what all these guys have. Can Durzi play 25 minutes a game? Or is he best suited at 16 minutes a game. None the less, this team should be very exciting to watch.
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Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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agree with you, they are young but talented. still see hayton 1C, kell, schm, hayton when together for second half last year as 11th best scoring line in the league- keep them together. 2C cooley w those two, a playmaker and a more d power F in crouse.
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Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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agree with you, they are young but talented. still see hayton 1C, kell, schm, hayton when together for second half last year as 11th best scoring line in the league- keep them together. 2C cooley w those two, a playmaker and a more d power F in crouse.


Fair! I just see Cooley as having the actual #1C potential, where I don't for Hayton but I just did the swap. Lines can be adjusted a few different ways.
Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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Name me one really good piece on the back end outside Simashev ...
Maybe Durzi, but he ain't a top pairing dman
Moser and Valimaki are decent, maybe one could turn into a solid top 4 dman
Soderstrom as a lot to prove
Lamoureux have 3rd pairing ceiling
Duda is a good prospect but not really good

They are stacked on offense tho, I will give them credit


last year the D was better than the O league wide (still not great but ranked higher) I think scoring will be much improved (losing kassian, obrien, fischer, ritchie for guenther, cooley, zucker, kerfoot they better be). on the blueline moser and valimaki it was boths first full year (expect to improve on some of the mistakes), durzi is still 24, sodestrum is 22 and this might be first full year, brown and stetcher are bottom pair vets. agree a top pair is needed but as is they should improve (chychrun didnt play 1/2 the season and ghost wasnt much on the D side).
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Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Fair! I just see Cooley as having the actual #1C potential, where I don't for Hayton but I just did the swap. Lines can be adjusted a few different ways.


agree w/ cooley but id rather see him learn down a line or even two than be overwhelmed as 1C (he is still 19). maybe even start w zucker and kerfoot learn from some vets (who still can score).
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Jul. 27, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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agree w/ cooley but id rather see him learn down a line or even two than be overwhelmed as 1C (he is still 19)


Can't argue with this.

Arizona did a very good job at creating a deep forward group, so guys like Cooley shouldn't get overwhelmed.

They may just run each line 15 minutes a game to start and go from there. Kerfoot, Bjugstad, Boyd is a very good 4th line.
Jul. 27, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Can't argue with this.

Arizona did a very good job at creating a deep forward group, so guys like Cooley shouldn't get overwhelmed.

They may just run each line 15 minutes a game to start and go from there. Kerfoot, Bjugstad, Boyd is a very good 4th line.


if look at bottom 9 - have 3 young kids (maccelli, cooley, gunether) think one each on 2/3/4 lines then have 4 vets (zucker, kerfoot, bjug, boyd) and 2 bangers (crouse, mcbain) id spread the kids (esp cooley, guenther w a vet and banger to learn and be protected). its about them learning the NHL game and being studs in couple years.
1st line gets their 20min and the others are all solid and interchangeable really - each get 12-15 min (depending on match ups, whos hot etc).
 
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