SJS shouldn't be giving up a pick, but it is Mike Grier.

Why would SJS do this trade? A second to take on 9mil in cap over three years for a player that is over payed by 2mil, and give up a 5th. I get Grier sucks, but this is an easy pass.

Lmao at the Grier haters. Dude has done so much in only one year and yall will never be satisfied. It's a joke

It's true, I'm a hater.

I really hope they trade Kubalik for a positive asset since he only has 1 year at a low AAV, instead of losing another asset to move Joseph's contract


lol at Joseph being a 950 000$ player on his UFA years

How do you feel about him trading Hill to VGN? I'd love to hear your praise for that blunder. Without it Vegas doesn't win the cup. I seriously can't name one good trade Grier has done. His first move was to buy out Balcers who had one year left on his contract. He put up 23 points for 1.5mil. We are still paying his buy out penalty. What a great move! The best thing he has done is not give out big dumb contracts with no movement clauses on them. Not signing Meier was his best move so far. You say he has ''done so much'', name three of his best moves. Do they out way his three worst moves?

- Lmao Hill wasn't very good and the Sharks had 3 goaltenders. They had to move one out and Reimer was the vet to help Kahk. He was Vegas's 3rd (debatably 4th) string Goalie. I'm surprised we got ANYTHING back for him. If you said you knew he was going to backstop a cup winning team, you're a straight up liar.
- Remind me where Balcers played last year? I'll admit I liked him but when every GM doesn't want him, that's where defer to the people who know much better than me (and his buyout is 300k lol, we have 5 mil+ in cap space with an EK trade looming)

Some fantastic Grier moves:
- He literally restocked the Sharsk entire defense prospect pool in one season. That's bringing in Shakir, Thrun, Pulli, Okhotiuk (not to mention drafting Havelid, Cagnoni, Pohlkamp +)
- Got Jacob Peterson for Reedy (lol)
- Got Duclair for an 4th liner/AHLer and a 4th
- Actually committed to getting a top draft pick in Will Smith (securing a future top Center)
- Traded Timo for = top pairing D-man and middle pairing shutdown d-man prospects (mentioned above), a young middle six forward with top six potential, a First (Musty already looks like a steal), and another potential 1st
- Picked up a top five pick from 5 years ago on a no-risk 1 mil prove-it deal (Zadina)

And since people love to bring up the Burns trade - Burns was a mediocre at best player when traded - Lost the trade a bit at the time and honestly, depending on what they get for Duclair at the deadline, may turn out to be fair/win (since Lorentz was dealt for Burns) + Makiniemi has starting/tandem potential

That's a lot of teal tinted optimism. Those are wild ceilings you are putting on those players. I would actually put the Burns trade in the win column for Grier, even though we got nothing in return. Balcers played for TBL and FLA last year, what's your point? Hill ended the season top 15. There is a reason why you don't trade with your rival and try to trade out of conference. It looks like you can't admit trading Hill to the VGN was a blunder. Most of what you said I disagree with, but I do agree Burns was a good move.

My point on Balcers is he played a total of 15 games, had 5 points and went on waivers.

And what are you talking about, Hill ended the season top 15? He was 55th in Sv% and 30th in GAA in 21-22. Unless you're talking about this last year, in which case you're using hindsight bias. He only got a lot of games because Thompson had injuries.