Suzuki would be one of the Habs better C prospects instantly... take of the Habs tinted glasses

Majorly disagree. In my previous post, you'll find my justifications

Thats a pretty low bar right now. Ryan wouldnt make the habs top 10 prospects atm

Yes, our best C prospect… behind Beck, Kidney, Mesar and Kapanen

You disagree, but I’m sure Hughes won’t. And that is what matters

Better than Kidney and Kapanen, probably not Mesar and Beck though

You can disagree, but the NHL teams tend to believe in analytics more and more, and those make Dvorak look worse than just looking at base totals so maybe stop trying to say "oh Hughes won't"

Kidney is definitely better. Suzuki is an ahler. And Kapanen has great stats in Finland. So I would say he is better too

But the thing is, we don’t want to get rid of Dvorak, so unless you offers something worth our time we won’t give him to you

Cool, keep him and be awful again

What? Stop it. Ryan Suzuki would be borderline top 5. He's got top 6 potential, but he's almost certainly going to be a top 9 C. Also, what are you talking about with a low bar? Carolina have a guy that just rewrote KHL record books, and the dude breaking Cale Makar's UMass records... low bar, get the f*ck outta here lmao.

But the thing is, we don’t want to get rid of Dvorak, so unless you offers something worth our time we won’t give him to you

Lol so then your lying then because suzuki is not remotely at morrows level

Hes is 22 in his 3rd year of AHL play and can barely get to a .5 ppg.

He wasnt a prolific offensive player in junior either sp expecting top 6 nhl production when he struggles to do it at the ahl level isnt realistic.

Ryan was selected in 2019. The habs have from that draft onwards. Dach caufield newhook RHP Guhle Farrell slafkovsky roy Slafkovsky hutson and thats before you get to kidney mailloux kapanen mesar beck engstrom etc.

He doesnt stack up.

That's not true. He's taking time away from young guys playing. Gotta believe they wanna try Newhook at C. 100% Dvorak is being shopped.

How dare you use facts in an argument!

Lol you asked for this nonsense by proposing a trade between these teams. Personally I don't mind not doing business with ya'll jerks haha

Dvorak with no retention isn't worth anything. He's a cap dump

Dvorak has better numbers than KK. So then KK is just more than a cap dump

Hey, if you hadn't tried to offer sheet Aho, none of this would have happened... thanks for KK again by the way, I absolutely love him.

Glad you love him. He's still never going to be a top6 player. Enjoy you're team going downhill. Your defense will never be this good ever again.

That's not true. He's taking time away from young guys playing. Gotta believe they wanna try Newhook at C. 100% Dvorak is being shopped.

If Dvorak was in a Canes jersey I'd say the same thing if he performed the way he has in Montreal. You want to try and give some justification or are you just going to pull things out of your backside to throw at me? He makes 4+ a year and has hit 30 points once in his two years in Montreal. You can argue bad teammates, absolutely. But to be worth what your asking, he needs to be at least showing some form of threat on his own.

To put this into perspective, he put up comparable analytics to the fossil of Jonathan Toews

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=n&p1=8477989&p2=8473604&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

He's not worth more than what, maybe 2? The only argument against this is that he's got the extra year of term.

Okay well, you're the one who proposed a trade to acquire him. Counterintuitive to the turn around and begin trashing the same player.

Player for player, pick for retention. 2.225 mil for 2 years is going to cost more than a 4th.

Newhook said himself that he isn’t a C. I believe he will start the season as a winger to Dach. And FYI, Dvorak is injured and will miss the beginning of the season, so he won’t take ice time