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Making the playoffs

Created by: RyanMclovin
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 29, 2023
Published: Aug. 29, 2023
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  1. Pettersson, Elias
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VAN
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Peterka, John-Jason
  3. Savoie, Matthew
  4. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (BUF)
  6. 2026 3rd round pick (BUF)
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22$83,500,000$78,492,737$0$4,537,500$5,007,263
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C
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C
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RD
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Aug. 30, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Quoting: DongLord23
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Thompson is around the same level. This is goofy.

Tage 162 points (85 goals) in 156 games last 2 seasons

Petey 170 points (71 goals) in 160 games last 2 seasons

Just because the guy got some 3rd-6th place Selke votes for the first time doesn't make him on a different level than Tage. Tage is also on an extremely good contract. Petey would be making 3M+ more with his new deal.

Eichel got a better return than Tkachuk? Like Krebs + Tuch is better than 2 30 year old rentals that needed huge contracts.


Pettersson is miles better defensively. Tage is awful in his own zone, Pettersson is elite. So yes, Tage isn’t on Pettersson’s level

Eichel’s return was not better than Tkachuk’s. Tkachuk returned a 115 point winger, a top pairing dman, an 3rd round prospect, and a 1st. Eichel returned a solid prospect, a top 6 winger, a 1st, and a 2nd
Aug. 31, 2023 at 3:08 a.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Pettersson is miles better defensively. Tage is awful in his own zone, Pettersson is elite. So yes, Tage isn’t on Pettersson’s level

Eichel’s return was not better than Tkachuk’s. Tkachuk returned a 115 point winger, a top pairing dman, an 3rd round prospect, and a 1st. Eichel returned a solid prospect, a top 6 winger, a 1st, and a 2nd


Tage is also elite and a better goal scorer than petey. Tage also isn't awful in his own zone. Sound like someone that just looks at charts. He plays a decent amount on the PK. Pretty good stickwork. That line is just plays a high risk game because that's what they're coach to do. They'd rather have them score a ton and give some up. Just because someone is better defensively doesn't make someone on another level.

You realize both were 30 and FAs the next year right? Most people are taking Tuch & Krebs in their early 20s at 5.5M for another 4 years instead of Huberdeau + Weegar at 16.75M in their 30s for another 8 years. I swear people on here just don't understand the value of contracts & cap space.
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 3:11 a.m.
#28
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Quoting: Warpbox
Two "30 year old rentals" is just completely ignoring who they were. One of them was just the second highest producing NHL player and was 5th in MVP voting. The other was a 28 year old Dman who got a few norris votes and is a top 30 NHL dman.


It's focusing on the the biggest part of value. Why do you think a vezina winner went for free? A salary cap exists. These guys are also out of their prime. Value is about future not what they did the season before. Do you think columbus would trade Fantili for Stamkos?
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 3:11 a.m.
#29
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Quoting: Juiceman
Absolutely not 😂. Factor in the defense where Pettersson is Selke caliber and Thompson is near the worst in the league. That’s a Huge difference


It's not a huge difference. This also just sounds like someone who just looks at charts and doesn't watch them play. Tage is also a better goal scorer. They are close.
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
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Quoting: DongLord23
Tage is also elite and a better goal scorer than petey. Tage also isn't awful in his own zone. Sound like someone that just looks at charts. He plays a decent amount on the PK. Pretty good stickwork. That line is just plays a high risk game because that's what they're coach to do. They'd rather have them score a ton and give some up. Just because someone is better defensively doesn't make someone on another level.

You realize both were 30 and FAs the next year right? Most people are taking Tuch & Krebs in their early 20s at 5.5M for another 4 years instead of Huberdeau + Weegar at 16.75M in their 30s for another 8 years. I swear people on here just don't understand the value of contracts & cap space.


Quoting: DongLord23
It's focusing on the the biggest part of value. Why do you think a vezina winner went for free? A salary cap exists. These guys are also out of their prime. Value is about future not what they did the season before. Do you think columbus would trade Fantili for Stamkos?


Quoting: DongLord23
It's not a huge difference. This also just sounds like someone who just looks at charts and doesn't watch them play. Tage is also a better goal scorer. They are close.


In four years you have only posted 1200 comments, but you speak, people should listen as you know of what you say.
Leaf fans actually watch hockey, it is refreshing to hear positive comments about Tage from a Toronto follower.
While I could see his raw talent when he became a Sabre, it took Granato to release it.
Big players often take longer to develop, he is still developing.
Thanks for your comments.
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: DongLord23
It's not a huge difference. This also just sounds like someone who just looks at charts and doesn't watch them play. Tage is also a better goal scorer. They are close.


Defence is a huge difference. Let's not pretend it doesn't matter
 
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