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Unique Ottawa deal

Created by: Caniac2000
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2023
Published: Aug. 31, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Stealing the Chatfield to Ottawa idea from this ACGM:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4547616

Kubalik and Thomson were in the original return, which makes no sense for Carolina. Defenseman for defenseman without an AHL affiliate doesn't do anything, and as good as Kubalik is, the wingers are already good enough. So the idea is Pinto. Drury is not much older and could fill the role, Carolina gets a guy who put up 20 last year.

For Pinto's contract, I just gave him Newhook's deal
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$2,900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Trades
CAR
  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Chatfield, Jalen
  2. Drury, Jack
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,841,917$450,000$500,000$658,083
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C
RFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 31, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Disagree, Lafreniere played the first half of the season with better linemates than Jarvis did. Lafreniere and Kravtsov were given RW roles in the top six, until Lafreniere was scratched. Jarvis also had a FAR better postseason. To have them have comparable totals and Lafreniere get moved down the lineup is not a good look. Not to mention, Jarvis didn't always play with Aho, just as Lafreniere didn't always play with Chytil or Zibanejad, or even Trocheck. Jarvis had the better season, and here's a nice colorful chart that kind of proves the point.

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Laffy P/60 at even strength: 1.61
Jarvis P/60 at even strength: 1.38

Yea Jarvis is gonna have better expected goals for and corsi for because of his better linemates and system Carolina plays lol

Laffy minutes with Mika: 101 minutes
Laffy minutes with Panarin: 170 minutes
Laffy minutes with Trocheck: 248 minutes

Jarvis minutes with Aho: 700 minutes
Aug. 31, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Needless to say that Ottawa has zero interest in this. They wouldn't trade Pinto for Chychrun and chose to give their 1st that was a non-playoffs first instead

Quoting: Caniac2000
No one is going to touch Joseph's contract. That leaves Kubalik and Brannstrom, but with every team knowing the cap hell the Sens are in, it leaves the organization backed into a hole. Kubalik's value isn't the greatest anyway. Brannstrom's has been falling since the second he got to Ottawa. Even if they could afford him, what are they going to do? His path into a top-six role is completely blocked.

A lot of misinformation here

Quoting: Caniac2000
This is either a really bad troll job, or you're incredibly anti-Canes

You're the one who created this ACGM and you say this?
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Needless to say that Ottawa has zero interest in this. They wouldn't trade Pinto for Chychrun and chose to give their 1st that was a non-playoffs first instead


A lot of misinformation here


You're the one who created this ACGM and you say this?


I feel like this was a really poor try at a trade they though was fair.

Or a really good troll job, and with some of there thoughts, I'm guessing troll job.
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Aug. 31, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Nikishin's fall in the draft I cannot explain. It did not look like a good pick when it was made, I cannot tell you what happened, but it happened.

Would you rather have a player that's the same age, same in skill and contract status that has never played a playoff game, or a player that is the same in skill and contract status that has won the Stanley Cup, has a ton of postseason experience, and can help guide others through what it takes to win? That's why it's important.

Newhook next year will be interesting. he may have the defensive restraints lifted, but in a system like Montreal, I do expect him to be a lot freeer. I could see an offensive outburst instead. Maybe 50-55 points, more if he's on the top line with Suzuki and Caufield. Pinto had better linemates last season than he likely will again after Norris' injuries. I'm just not seeing how he has that kind of explosion.


nikishkin fell because some player take just a bit more time to devellop. you cant just look at the potential at 18 years old and pretend to know their career, ceiling, floor or potential.

as for you question, its assume that they are the same, newhook and pinto, and they are not. there is about a 100 things i would consider while getting a player before ''were they on a team that won the cup''

newhook will for sure have a better offensive season with montreal, he will get more ice team.
 
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