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What kind of package is Winnipeg looking for

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Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2023
Published: Sep. 7, 2023
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Michael Russo reported on The Athletic Hockey Show: “Right now it doesn’t look like the Devils and Sabres are willing to pay the incredible assets the Jets are commanding for Hellebuyck”. I’m just trying to get a feel for what that package would be that they’re looking for?
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  1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,000,000 retained)
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  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. Vanecek, Vitek
  4. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$78,447,500$422,500$1,382,500$5,052,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
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UFA - 5
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
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NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
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RFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
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Sep. 8, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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There is zero chance NJ pays that kind of price. Holtz and Casey are both A prospects, a first, and a 1B goaltender is an insane price to pay for a pure rental.. if they really want him they can sign him as a UFA next offseason when he leaves Winnipeg for nothing
Sep. 8, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: mynameisliang_
Jets fan here checking in:

The ask for Hellebuyck is simple, and per the Athletic, not even your best assets.

Simon Nemec is your 4th best prospect per Wheeler at the Athletic.

Connor Hellebuyck instantly makes you *the* Stanley Cup Favourite, and the assets returned in the deal should merit that consideration.

Right now, the Jets' roster is *significantly* better than last year's at this time, and last year's roster was 1st in the west in January. That the wheels fell off after that point has a lot to do with why Wheeler isnt with the team anymore, but basically from last year's opening day roster, we've replaced Dubois, Wheeler and a bunch of AHLers with Vilardi, Namestnikov, Niederreiter, Iafallo and Kupari. *On Paper* this is the deepest Jets roster I've seen in a long time, and should absolutely contend in the central.

So, with this in consideration, you're not actually trading for Hellebuyck, you're trading for several million dollars of playoff revenue guaranteed if we keep Hellebuyck. It's obvious that it would be better for the Jets Long-term to trade Hellebuyck, but people need to disabuse themselves of the concept that the Jets are somehow desperate to trade him.


Nemec being the 4th best prospect on NJ doesn’t mean he’s up for grabs on the cheap. Hes one of the best defensive prospects in the league and would immediately be the best prospect on 80% of the teams in the league by a country mile. Hes absolutely not on the table for a pure rental and Ik you’re expecting the playoffs for Winnipeg and I’m not trying to be rude here but it’s very likely not happening. They’d have to beat out the flames and Vancouver for it and I just don’t see that happening. The Jets are very light on prospects and the future looks dark. Helle is not going to resign so yeah they kind of do need to trade him for what they can get and there’s not much of a market this year for selling goalies so a bidding war is unlikely.
Sep. 11, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
It’s likely jets maybe overpay on AAV but less term and he stays. No one will pay him the AAV winnipeg would.

Personally I think they need to just cut ties and move on, but I think there’s definitely going to be some owner interference on these two players.


Have you heard the latest on Hellebuyck from Friedman?

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/notable_change_in_negotiating_positions_for_hellebuyck_and_jets/s1_16454_39228900

https://illegalcurve.com/32-thoughts-podcast-latest-on-winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-and-mark-scheifele/

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/09/winnipeg-jets-to-be-patient-with-connor-hellebuyck-mark-scheifele.html

Not good news imo 😕
Sep. 11, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Have you heard the latest on Hellebuyck from Friedman?

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/notable_change_in_negotiating_positions_for_hellebuyck_and_jets/s1_16454_39228900

https://illegalcurve.com/32-thoughts-podcast-latest-on-winnipeg-jets-connor-hellebuyck-and-mark-scheifele/

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2023/09/winnipeg-jets-to-be-patient-with-connor-hellebuyck-mark-scheifele.html

Not good news imo 😕


Going to end up seeing a 3x9.75 extension for helly I think. Scheifele I think is traded at the TDL.
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Sep. 11, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
Going to end up seeing a 3x9.75 extension for helly I think. Scheifele I think is traded at the TDL.


That'd be awful!
 
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