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Created by: Green4D4
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 15, 2023
Published: Sep. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Get "value" from other players and keep Pinto.

Awful asset management by PD if he loses this guy unless the return is immediate help.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
2$782,500
Trades
OTT
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Kelemen, Milos
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
ARI
  1. Brännström, Erik
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. 2024 4th round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,657,380$0$1,850,000$2,842,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$782,500$782,500
LW
RFA - 1

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Sep. 15, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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OTT saves 3.7m gets to keep pinto - loses two decent pieces though
AZ gets 2 solid parts, both on last year so if doesnt work out can TDL
Sep. 17, 2023 at 5:56 p.m.
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No offense but this is awful value for Brannstrom and Kubalik

This is basically upgrading a 4th to a 3rd.

Kubalik should be worth a 3rd at worst, retain 0.5 AAV if necessary

I would be UPSET if Dorion traded Brannstrom for a 2nd, his value is going to continue rising. Only way I'd find a trade acceptable is for a young forward

Ex : I had my eyes on Eeli Tolvanen last season. Didn't expect him to be waived though. That was stupid from Nash
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Sep. 18, 2023 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
No offense but this is awful value for Brannstrom and Kubalik

This is basically upgrading a 4th to a 3rd.

Kubalik should be worth a 3rd at worst, retain 0.5 AAV if necessary

I would be UPSET if Dorion traded Brannstrom for a 2nd, his value is going to continue rising. Only way I'd find a trade acceptable is for a young forward

Ex : I had my eyes on Eeli Tolvanen last season. Didn't expect him to be waived though. That was stupid from Nash


OFFENSE TAKEN! HOW DARE YOU OFFER VALID CRITISICM!

I should've probably worded this ACGM a little better. The value of both these players are obviously a lot higher (I view Brannstrom at a late 1st early 2nd round pick or young roster forward - Kubalik at a 2nd at most, 50% retention). The problem is Ottawa has no wiggle room right now unless Pinto takes the best 800k contract value of all time for a hope of a payday next year... even then... really tough to call up guys when you have 0 cap space.

I was also just upset that day about the potential of Pinto being moved for what is likely a draft pick.
Sep. 18, 2023 at 11:26 p.m.
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OFFENSE TAKEN! HOW DARE YOU OFFER VALID CRITISICM!

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Quoting: Green4D4
I should've probably worded this ACGM a little better. The value of both these players are obviously a lot higher (I view Brannstrom at a late 1st early 2nd round pick or young roster forward - Kubalik at a 2nd at most, 50% retention). The problem is Ottawa has no wiggle room right now unless Pinto takes the best 800k contract value of all time for a hope of a payday next year... even then... really tough to call up guys when you have 0 cap space.

I was also just upset that day about the potential of Pinto being moved for what is likely a draft pick.

I value Brannstrom and Kubalik the same way. Also agreed the current NHL market make it difficult to do anything. I think you move Kubalik for anything you can and sign Pinto to 1 year bridge. Not a bad thing for him as he could get his long term extension as soon as January (in 3 months). He would end up making more money than taking a 2 years bridge now.
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