You think 30 other teams are going to pass on him?

Yes. Watching him play, he's just a guy with above average defensive instincts and whole lot of nothing else. Even then, you only notice him when he makes a massive mistake. He's young, but that's his only upside.

He's definitely not an NHL player yet and certainly not a 2nd pairing guy. Plus, he's not attractive as a some other players on waivers that are on 2-ways and making minimum wage.

I’m not gonna lie, I appreciate the insight but I just don’t see how he makes it past 30 teams. Former 1st round picks are definitely valuable if they somehow it waivers

JBD doesn't fall far enough for FL to get him. He gets claimed before that. Doubt he falls any further than AZ or Vancouver.

First round pedigree and having the old right handed shot does get you looked at. I just don't see him being any better than the likes of Connor Timmins or even Ty Smith. Both of which are probably going to clear and be assigned to their respective AHL affiliates.

Don't get me wrong, I have hopes that JBD isn't claimed because there is still some value and upside despite his shortcomings, but it's not like it's going to hurt Ottawa in the long run.

When you can't make a rebuilding squads bottom pairing, even as a 7, that's shocking.

Like who? Ottawa has arguably waived the 3 most attractive pieces so far... All 3 were 22 years old last season for Christ's sake. Not even sure I even seen this before. Dorion is either terrible at drafting or terrible at evaluating pro talent or terrible at managing assets. Could be a combination or even all 3 lol

This is what I found on JBD yesterday :

From 2020-21 to 2021-22, JBD only played 32 NHL games but among the 22 Sens D-men who played on the team, he ranks 4th best xGA/60 (only Kleven, Heatherington and Reilly were higher, also small sample sizes) and the 2nd best GA/60 (only Larsson had a better one but only 8 games). There's literally 1 more goal allowed per 60 when Hamonic is on the ice (2.13 vs 3.13). And you have to note that JBD was 20 to 22 y/o during that time, not even fully NHL ready

So this is the only stat that matters for JBD, GA and xGA

That doesn't mean that he is great or anything but a boring "safe" kind of guy could be useful to have as a 6th/7th, instead of a continuous adventure like Hamonic or a totally unproven guy like Guenette. Poor Brannstrom that will have to carry Hamonic all year. It's the 3rd pair but he's not as good as Sanderson. It will bring down Brannstrom's game and trade value. So likely another asset pissed away


Ty Smith is awful defensively, Thomson is good in comparison. Connor Timmins is quite decent, I'd absolutely have him over Hamonic and Guenette

Of course it's not going to hurt Ottawa in the long run, even Thomson or Sokolov but by aggregation, it already does. We have been in an earth scorched rebuild for 6 years, haven't made the playoffs yet but still PISSED AWAY so many assets, it's insane. You're supposed to do the opposite lol (look at the Coyotes for example)


This doesn't mean anything, this team is managed by Pierre Dorion. A 2.95 AAV quality bottom-6 forward is now seen as a major cap dump. There's no limit to Dorion mismanagement

Thomson/JBD/Sokolov is really not as risky as Gustavsson, but just a year ago he got major egg in his face with that trade. The first it ever happened was the more known Mika Zibanejad.

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Timmins is now out for 4-6 months.

Doom and gloom eh bud? Team is 5-1 in the pre-season but losing Lassi and the possibility of JBD is a deal breaker? I get there are more factors right now (salary cap/dead cap) but in pre-season you have to earn it and none of the guys waived today/yesterday have earned it. (Albeit, I'll lose my GD mind if Kelly and MacEwan aren't in Belleville to start the year).

If anything, this pre-season has shown me that Lassi and JBD weren't good enough to make this roster or to force Dorion to make a move.. End of story. The only argument they could've made was to outplay Hamonic for the 6th spot which shouldn't be hard and yet they never came close enough in the 3 years they've been in the system. Yet it some how warranted a 2 year 1-way contract for JBD because Dorion likes the friend/60 stat.

Thomson was not good defensively and not good enough offensively to make up for it. Was he gonna get PP time on this roster? No. Was he committing defensively to play PK or in the bottom 6? No. Waived and claimed. He couldn't make this roster for 3 years. What makes him so special? He'll be gone to Finland by next year, The only reason he was claimed in Anahiem was because they can't come to terms with Drysdale. Which says a lot about the depth in ANA right now.

JBD, whilst he can block shots and be in relatively good defensive position, can't make an outlet pass to save his life. Reminded me a lot of Zaitsev in that aspect. A lot of icing. That and he doesn't hit people or isn't mean enough.

Are there better options than Hamonic? For sure. Were JBD and Thomson those options? No.

- Sucks for Timmins, seems that this guy always get an injured when he's about to establish himself

- I don't really take the preseason record in consideration. I never said losing these young guys was a "deal breaker", more like an overall appreciation of how assets have been managed all the way. And sorry but I can't see both Kelly and MacEwen in Belleville... unfortunately

- I find Hamonic pretty bad in general, he has a good shot, he's tough and ready to sacrifice his body but his defensive coverage is an adventure

- I agree there was not much of a NHL path for Thomson but I would have preferred one of Thomson/JBD as the 7th guy over Hamonic. And even if Guenette is the 7th guy, he's not going to fare much better than them when the real season begins. He's waiver exempt though

- I wouldn't bet on Thomson being in Finland next season, some team might have an use for him but that starts with PP time. JBD I think will play a meaningful amount of NHL games. I remember several years back people told me that Alex Chiasson was out of the NHL for sure but you look now and has played 651 NHL games.