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Created by: siamro

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 7, 2023

Published: Oct. 7, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pinto, Shane		3	$2,200,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bailey, Josh		1	$775,000

Trades

OTT

Hägg, Robert

ANA

Joseph, Mathieu
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
2025 3rd round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

Cost of a salary dump

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$80,969,047	$0	$1,850,000	$2,530,953

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Bailey, Josh $775,000$775,000 RW, LW, C UFA	Pinto, Shane $2,200,000$2,200,000 C RFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3
Smejkal, Jiri $870,000$870,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2
Hägg, Robert $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1

Oct. 7, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.

csick

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Waiting to put Norris on LTIR on Monday to sign him. Joseph is staying we need him

Oct. 7, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.

siamro

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Sure is looking that way but Norris isn't likely out for the season so at some point they need to make some cap space and I don't see another option other than Joseph

Oct. 7, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.

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Edited Oct. 7, 2023 at 8:42 p.m.

Really doubtful that the Sens would do anything like that at this point

Quoting: csick

Waiting to put Norris on LTIR on Monday to sign him. Joseph is staying we need him

It would be utterly stupid to pay anything to move a quality 3rd line defensive forward

Oct. 8, 2023 at 10:00 a.m.

siamro

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Quoting: Xspyrit

Really doubtful that the Sens would do anything like that at this point

It would be utterly stupid to pay anything to move a quality 3rd line defensive forward

If Norris was healthy to start the season, what are your choices to get under the cap and ice at least 20 players?

Oct. 8, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.

BsInOttawa

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Quoting: siamro

If Norris was healthy to start the season, what are your choices to get under the cap and ice at least 20 players?

Let Pinto hold out.

Oct. 8, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.

siamro

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Quoting: BsInOttawa

Let Pinto hold out.

Hold out? There is no cap available to sign him unless he takes league minimum or Norris goes on LTIR

Oct. 8, 2023 at 7:31 p.m.

Xspyrit

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Quoting: siamro

If Norris was healthy to start the season, what are your choices to get under the cap and ice at least 20 players?

Hard to say with Dorion as he is a huge time ticking bomb...

But my choice would be trade Kubalik now.

They could also send Rourke Chartier down (save 0.775 AAV) and Joseph down to start the season (and save 1.15 AAV doing so), then they could sign Pinto to a 1 year 1.8 AAV and even have some cap space left

Just made an ACGM regarding this :

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4624923

Oct. 8, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.

siamro

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Quoting: Xspyrit

Good points.

Looks like today the Sens are saying that Norris will be out so that frees up a lot of cap space although at some point you want him in the lineup so they'll buy some time and make a plan

Oct. 9, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.

Xspyrit

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Quoting: siamro

Time is never enough time to make a plan for Dorion though! Surprised the new ownership didn't replace him yet, but I guess it was a bad timing with the season coming up

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