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Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2023
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Depths crazy monahan adds elite faceoff % can play on pk and has can create opportunities good on bumper for pp and good cheap depth
Pearson played and won a cup with toffoli has been amazing for mtl and one of the top 3rd liners so far this season can also play pk and has a good shot and good puck battles
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Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: DQavis
monahan and evans have a better faceoff % then any devils player suzuki is down on haula by 0.7% on the face off and suzuki also > over every other devil on the face off
monahan has 6pts in 7gp haula has 3 in 5
monahan in the last 3 yrs 2/3 better faceoff % 1 year lost by 0.7% in 70 more games has 200 more pts lmao
in the last 5 yr haula played 262 games and 133pts
mony in last 5 yrs played 217 games and 122pts
45 game diff and 11 pts apart tragic
haulas 3yrs older and only good aspect is his defensive play he had one massive year a vegas and been a bottom 6 player ever since no pp time cuz hes not offensive mony quadruples his pp pts
anything else? haula dog **** compared to monahan and monahan over every single 4th liner nj ices
read my **** ***** "stats back it up" monahan plays 2 way top 6 game haula plays defensively bottom 9


Wow a 0.05 difference in PPG. That's a difference of a whopping 4 points per 82 games.

Meanwhile Haula doesn't get nearly as much PP opportunity, Ice time, and is much better defensively and on the PK

Monahan was allergic to defense for nearly a decade, and has a tiny sample size of only being below average.

Haula doesn't get PP time in jersey bc the devils have Nico, Hughes, Hamilton, Hughes, Toffoli, Mercer, Bratt, and Meier. That's 8 guys who without a doubt are playing PP1 for montreal. 6 of them would probably be montreal's best player overall
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: DQavis
monahan and evans have a better faceoff % then any devils player suzuki is down on haula by 0.7% on the face off and suzuki also > over every other devil on the face off
monahan has 6pts in 7gp haula has 3 in 5
monahan in the last 3 yrs 2/3 better faceoff % 1 year lost by 0.7% in 70 more games has 200 more pts lmao
in the last 5 yr haula played 262 games and 133pts
mony in last 5 yrs played 217 games and 122pts
45 game diff and 11 pts apart tragic
haulas 3yrs older and only good aspect is his defensive play he had one massive year a vegas and been a bottom 6 player ever since no pp time cuz hes not offensive mony quadruples his pp pts
anything else? haula dog **** compared to monahan and monahan over every single 4th liner nj ices
read my **** ***** "stats back it up" monahan plays 2 way top 6 game haula plays defensively bottom 9


Monahan wouldn't be better in a 4th line role than Mcleod. But sure take him over Bastian or Nosek or Lazar I don't particularly gaf. It'd make our PK worse, our 4th line worse defensively, and Monahan doesn't get more than 30 seconds a night on the pp in jersey
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
I am unmoved by a 6 game sample size.

Haula has had a faceoff% of 54% over the last half decade. Monahan 52%. Jake evans about 51%. Hischier 53%. Mcleod 57%. Suzuki 47%. Nosek 54%. Lazar 50%

Ranked:
Mcleod
Nosek
Haula
Hischier
Monahan
Evans
Lazar
Suzuki


this year ****
everyone knows prime monahan over everyone u named
suzuki has been ranked over hischier in every redraft ranking
nj has a team mtl has caufield suzuki mony and matheson
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: DQavis
this year ****
everyone knows prime monahan over everyone u named
suzuki has been ranked over hischier in every redraft ranking
nj has a team mtl has caufield suzuki mony and matheson


This year is a sample size of 7 games. It's meaningless to make any comparisons on 7 games of face offs.

Prime monahan was garbage defensively, doesn't exist anymore, and is still worse than Nico

Suzuki has never been ranked ahead of nico at any point ever by anyone living outside of montreal. Suzuki hasn't even caught up to rookie nico hischier yet
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Wow a 0.05 difference in PPG. That's a difference of a whopping 4 points per 82 games.

Meanwhile Haula doesn't get nearly as much PP opportunity, Ice time, and is much better defensively and on the PK

Monahan was allergic to defense for nearly a decade, and has a tiny sample size of only being below average.

Haula doesn't get PP time in jersey bc the devils have Nico, Hughes, Hamilton, Hughes, Toffoli, Mercer, Bratt, and Meier. That's 8 guys who without a doubt are playing PP1 for montreal. 6 of them would probably be montreal's best player overall


every non habs and devils fan can asure you only better player the cauifeild is hughes and nico and suzuki are pretty much the same player
suzuki better ppg better pp player compared to smo whos "8 players would make pp1 on mtl" (played with hart winner hall and hart favourite hughes last 2 yrs)
played 7 seasons compared to suzuki 5 seasons
last year nj had 7 38+ pt players mtl had one suzuki 66
nj had 14 players play more then 69 games mtl had 3 ones a rookie
nico has better faceoff% gwg otg and and shp by 1
suzuki better ppp ppg sht% points per game
do we even mention playoffs lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Matheson on pp over Hughes who has one pt in 6 games with a top powerplay in the league
Matheson 4 pp pts and is top 3 in the league in icetime on a dog**** mtl defence with a -1 marino and hughes with a +1 and 0 are the only better stats then Matheson's
caufeild over overpay meier bratt mercer toffoli LH hamilton
mercer 0pts in 6 games meier 1ppp a assist plays top pairing btw with top 3 pt getters and hart favourite
shall i go on
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.
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Monahan wouldn't be better in a 4th line role than Mcleod. But sure take him over Bastian or Nosek or Lazar I don't particularly gaf. It'd make our PK worse, our 4th line worse defensively, and Monahan doesn't get more than 30 seconds a night on the pp in jersey


if ur ass is so tight just put monahan in the top 9 and **** off with holtz whos not that good now or yet
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
This year is a sample size of 7 games. It's meaningless to make any comparisons on 7 games of face offs.

Prime monahan was garbage defensively, doesn't exist anymore, and is still worse than Nico

Suzuki has never been ranked ahead of nico at any point ever by anyone living outside of montreal. Suzuki hasn't even caught up to rookie nico hischier yet


read my other comment pu$$y the athletic put suzuki 5th nico 7th
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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every non habs and devils fan can asure you only better player the cauifeild is hughes and nico and suzuki are pretty much the same player
suzuki better ppg better pp player compared to smo whos "8 players would make pp1 on mtl" (played with hart winner hall and hart favourite hughes last 2 yrs)
played 7 seasons compared to suzuki 5 seasons
last year nj had 7 38+ pt players mtl had one suzuki 66
nj had 14 players play more then 69 games mtl had 3 ones a rookie
nico has better faceoff% gwg otg and and shp by 1
suzuki better ppp ppg sht% points per game
do we even mention playoffs lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Matheson on pp over Hughes who has one pt in 6 games with a top powerplay in the league
Matheson 4 pp pts and is top 3 in the league in icetime on a dog**** mtl defence with a -1 marino and hughes with a +1 and 0 are the only better stats then Matheson's
caufeild over overpay meier bratt mercer toffoli LH hamilton
mercer 0pts in 6 games meier 1ppp a assist plays top pairing btw with top 3 pt getters and hart favourite
shall i go on


Habs fans use a sample size larger than 7 games challenge (impossible).

Excellent observation that the devils PP quarterbacked by luke hughes is DOMINANT while the habs PP is quite mediocre.


Caufield is terrible defensively.

Hughes
Nico
Hamilton
Meier
Bratt
Caufield
Toffoli
Suzuki

In that order.

Taylor Hall hasn't played for the devils in 5 years

Let's use the athletics tierlist as a reference

1C: Hughes
2C: Hischier
3B: Meier, Dougie,
4A: Bratt,
4D: Caufield, Suzuki, Marino
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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if ur ass is so tight just put monahan in the top 9 and **** off with holtz whos not that good now or yet


Holtz is developing in that slot and moving holtz out of the top 9 would be terrible for his long term growth. So no. He's also been developing into exactly what we need him to be.
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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read my other comment pu$$y the athletic put suzuki 5th nico 7th


Lmao on the list from 2021 after nico missed the entire year that has Necas Norris and Suzuki above Jason Robertson and Nico
Got Nolan patrick ahead of Oetter too
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Habs fans use a sample size larger than 7 games challenge (impossible).

Excellent observation that the devils PP quarterbacked by luke hughes is DOMINANT while the habs PP is quite mediocre.


Caufield is terrible defensively.

Hughes
Nico
Hamilton
Meier
Bratt
Caufield
Toffoli
Suzuki

In that order.

Taylor Hall hasn't played for the devils in 5 years

Let's use the athletics tierlist as a reference

1C: Hughes
2C: Hischier
3B: Meier, Dougie,
4A: Bratt,
4D: Caufield, Suzuki, Marino


Mtl pk >nj
Mtl faceoff%> nj
Mtl goalie sv%>nj
Mtl pts >nj
Mtls win %>nj
Only thin nj is better at is ppp
Explain to me how 1 pt in 6 games on the pp is good for hughes compared to 4 in 7 matheson?
Caufield takes 2-3 penalties a year and scores at a elite sniper pace and this year shows he can play make (not normally his thing but will see if it keeps up)
Theres ranking and redrafts from analyst
Suzuki is 2 season under nico and has only one elite player in the last 5yrs caufield and he has played under 150 games and lets see for nico hall hughes bratt meier hamilton hughes toffoli is elite now not then if then counts then matheson now’s considered elite who else…
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Lmao on the list from 2021 after nico missed the entire year that has Necas Norris and Suzuki above Jason Robertson and Nico
Got Nolan patrick ahead of Oetter too


Its fair thats old but if u actually listened to what i had to say i legit put facts infront of your face and ur finding every little excuse to **** on anyplayer not in ur team i have the audacity to give props to ur players in areas that they dominatedor just better in and u dont
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: DQavis
Mtl pk >nj
Mtl faceoff%> nj
Mtl goalie sv%>nj
Mtl pts >nj
Mtls win %>nj
Only thin nj is better at is ppp
Explain to me how 1 pt in 6 games on the pp is good for hughes compared to 4 in 7 matheson?
Caufield takes 2-3 penalties a year and scores at a elite sniper pace and this year shows he can play make (not normally his thing but will see if it keeps up)
Theres ranking and redrafts from analyst
Suzuki is 2 season under nico and has only one elite player in the last 5yrs caufield and he has played under 150 games and lets see for nico hall hughes bratt meier hamilton hughes toffoli is elite now not then if then counts then matheson now’s considered elite who else…


Nico put up nearly a PPG last year playing primarily with Tomas Tatar and Dawson Mercer btw
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:50 p.m.
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Mtl pk >nj
Mtl faceoff%> nj
Mtl goalie sv%>nj
Mtl pts >nj
Mtls win %>nj
Only thin nj is better at is ppp
Explain to me how 1 pt in 6 games on the pp is good for hughes compared to 4 in 7 matheson?
Caufield takes 2-3 penalties a year and scores at a elite sniper pace and this year shows he can play make (not normally his thing but will see if it keeps up)
Theres ranking and redrafts from analyst
Suzuki is 2 season under nico and has only one elite player in the last 5yrs caufield and he has played under 150 games and lets see for nico hall hughes bratt meier hamilton hughes toffoli is elite now not then if then counts then matheson now’s considered elite who else…


Luke Hughes is QBing an elite PP. Matheson is not.

7 game sample size again. The devils dominated montreal when they played btw, but that's a 1 game sample size so I didn't mention it until now.

Enjoy your wins against Chicago and Columbus tho
Oct. 27, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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Its fair thats old but if u actually listened to what i had to say i legit put facts infront of your face and ur finding every little excuse to **** on anyplayer not in ur team i have the audacity to give props to ur players in areas that they dominatedor just better in and u dont


You have put out sample sizes of 7 games.

Suzuki is a defensively mediocre, strong offensive 2C
Nico is an defensively elite, strong offensive 1C. They aren't comparable

Caufield is an elite offensive, terrible defensivbe forward
Bratt, Meier, and Toffoli are elite offensive, responsible defensive forwards.

Hughes is in a class of his own 4 tiers above anyone on montreal

I'm a big fan of Matheson. He's been very good the last 2 years. I'd still rather have Luke Hughes/Dougie Hamilton running my PP
Oct. 27, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: DQavis
Mtl pk >nj
Mtl faceoff%> nj
Mtl goalie sv%>nj
Mtl pts >nj
Mtls win %>nj
Only thin nj is better at is ppp
Explain to me how 1 pt in 6 games on the pp is good for hughes compared to 4 in 7 matheson?
Caufield takes 2-3 penalties a year and scores at a elite sniper pace and this year shows he can play make (not normally his thing but will see if it keeps up)
Theres ranking and redrafts from analyst
Suzuki is 2 season under nico and has only one elite player in the last 5yrs caufield and he has played under 150 games and lets see for nico hall hughes bratt meier hamilton hughes toffoli is elite now not then if then counts then matheson now’s considered elite who else…


The devils PK ranked 4th in the league last year, and montreal's ranks 29th.

Montreal (like vancouver) currently has a PDO of 105 right now. Not sustainable.
The devils is 97, that should go up.

The devils even this year rank at the top of the league in terms of generating high quality chances for, and preventing them against.
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
1 goal, such a big difference

Monahan is second in the league in faceoff %

I have said they are pretty similar and stats back that

Monahan literally has more offensive production even when you take into account his last seasons in Calgary

You just can’t admit Monahan is better than prime Haula

He got 2m cuz he was ****ing injured. How hard is it to understand


And haula now has 5 goals in 7 games with virtually 0 pp time
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
And haula now has 5 goals in 7 games with virtually 0 pp time


And Monahan has 7 pts in 8 games playing with Gallagher and Pearson.
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:27 p.m.
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And Monahan has 7 pts in 8 games playing with Gallagher and Pearson.


And getting 4 minutes a night where his team has 1 more player than the other team.
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
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And getting 4 minutes a night where his team has 1 more player than the other team.

Haula is playing with guys like Toffoli and Mercer. Monahan is playing with 2 cap dumps
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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Haula is playing with guys like Toffoli and Mercer. Monahan is playing with 2 cap dumps


Haula is playing with Mercer and Curtis Lazar
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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Haula is playing with Mercer and Curtis Lazar

Today but before Hischier injury. Also that is much better than Gallagher and Pearson
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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Today but before Hischier injury. Also that is much better than Gallagher and Pearson


He played with Lazar and mercer before as well. Other linemates have been Holtz and Palat.

Meier Bratt Toffoli have been squarely in the top 6
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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He played with Lazar and mercer before as well. Other linemates have been Holtz and Palat.

Meier Bratt Toffoli have been squarely in the top 6

Oh ****, 50 pts Palat and seventh overall pick Holtz are worse than Cap dumped Pearson and old Gallagher?

Btw, you were saying Monahan was bad on pp, he is first in the league in pp goals
Oct. 29, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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Oh ****, 50 pts Palat and seventh overall pick Holtz are worse than Cap dumped Pearson and old Gallagher?

Btw, you were saying Monahan was bad on pp, he is first in the league in pp goals


Wow, a sample size of 3. The pp is ranked 12th.
 
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