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Flames fans are crazy man

Created by: Kinger25
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 8, 2023
Published: Nov. 8, 2023
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They have this false idea that tanev is the second best defender in the world and I don’t care what anybody says zadorov is worth a second max with half retention flames fan easily take the prize for most delusional fan base on here hope everyone has a great day tanev sells for a 2nd unretained 7/10 times by flames fans
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  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Nylander, William
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2026 1st round pick (TOR)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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23$83,500,000$78,706,584$0$0$4,793,416
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
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UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
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UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
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RFA - 1
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
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UFA - 7
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Nov. 8, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
#26
Leafs going to Leafs
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Quoting: oilfire
So what do you say, Hanifin, Zadorov, Tanev, plus, plus, plus... for Nylander with 8 x 10.5.

If Calgary were to do it, we can't really give up futures, there's a good chance we'll still be bad.

I don't think there's a real trade that's acceptable to either side.


Would hope the Leafs ask for Dube+Tanev+Zadorov+1st whenever... Or something like that at least...
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Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Dubas would have gotten Karlson would have drafted a Soo player out of the draft... Domi and Bert prob would have been signed along with Acciari...


But my point was that the Leafs typically give up picks before prospects... Dubas and Lammerello both did it...


And they're gone!
Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
#28
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Stop asking for our players if you have such an issue with our fanbase telling you what OUR playes value is on the open market, im sure you can find your cheap 7th dman that contributes nothing in your inevitable first round exit from a different team.

In your posts you offer no analysis, no metrics, no stats, you can’t even be bothered to do a simple google search so no wonder our fanbase sees your name and immediately thinks “wow another post from this moron”.

Ill spell it out for you one last time, we are telling you what the value of these players are in a trade deadline scenario not in a vacuum, in that scenario we saw a horrible player like Chiarot return a first round pick, if you aren’t willing to pony up the correct value there are other teams that will easily outbid your garbage offers.

Fans like you are the reason that the Leafs fandom has such a bad reputation.
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Nov. 8, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
#29
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Quoting: oilfire
And they're gone!


And Shanahan and his Shanaplan are still here...

On a side note, when will they can Shanahan if things don't work out?
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
And Shanahan and his Shanaplan are still here...

On a side note, when will they can Shanahan if things don't work out?


I don't know if he's wrong, it took the Capitals a long time to figure it out

I think the Leafs need to accept what they are for the next 2 years, stop going all in, retain those assets for when Tavares comes off the books. Then it's all in every year until Matthew's dies.
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Quoting: oilfire
I don't know if he's wrong, it took the Capitals a long time to figure it out

I think the Leafs need to accept what they are for the next 2 years, stop going all in, retain those assets for when Tavares comes off the books. Then it's all in every year until Matthew's dies.


Slowly build IMO... Acquiring Tanev and Z would help a lot, but the biggest piece is that Treliving should be able to retain both at a decent cost IMO... I'm just hoping for a deep playoff run which I think this team can do... Build momentum form last year's series win and continue to trade up...

JT contract isn't a problem unless they resign Nylander at 10+ IMO... But who knows at this point... Been a weird negotiation period
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Slowly build IMO... Acquiring Tanev and Z would help a lot, but the biggest piece is that Treliving should be able to retain both at a decent cost IMO... I'm just hoping for a deep playoff run which I think this team can do... Build momentum form last year's series win and continue to trade up...

JT contract isn't a problem unless they resign Nylander at 10+ IMO... But who knows at this point... Been a weird negotiation period


There's definitely an argument to be made for not wasting any years, and if you're letting Nylander walk, this is the last year you've got all this talent on "reasonable" contracts.

If I were pushing all in with the Leafs, I would target Nashville, they're teetering on the edge of a rebuild, have kinda signaled they're doing it. Might need a few more losses to pull the trigger. Forsberg, Josi, Saros, Mcdoughnut (what's up with him? Injured?), crazy potential package, but you gotta open the cupboards. Everything of value just for a couple of em I would assume.
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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Quoting: oilfire
There's definitely an argument to be made for not wasting any years, and if you're letting Nylander walk, this is the last year you've got all this talent on "reasonable" contracts.

If I were pushing all in with the Leafs, I would target Nashville, they're teetering on the edge of a rebuild, have kinda signaled they're doing it. Might need a few more losses to pull the trigger. Forsberg, Josi, Saros, Mcdoughnut (what's up with him? Injured?), crazy potential package, but you gotta open the cupboards. Everything of value just for a couple of em I would assume.


Yeah... And besides Minten, Cowan and Niemela... It's not like there are reinforcements coming from the farm system...

And others like ROR, Novak, Fabbro or even Schenn, with retention of course, could come back for a lot less
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Why are Flames fans high on Tanev? Maybe because he's absolutely great! It's probably the same reason that you keep proposing trades for him.

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If the most we could get for Tanev at 50% retention is a 2nd then it's not worth it. I would personally love to have Tanev around even if we were going into a rebuild.
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Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Yeah... And besides Minten, Cowan and Niemela... It's not like there are reinforcements coming from the farm system...

And others like ROR, Novak, Fabbro or even Schenn, with retention of course, could come back for a lot less


ROR and Schenn would be hilarious. They couldn't retain on that, right?
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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ROR and Schenn would be hilarious. They couldn't retain on that, right?


IDK... I haven't read the rulebook on recent singings restrictions
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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IDK... I haven't read the rulebook on recent singings restrictions


It sounds illegal
Nov. 8, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: oilfire
It sounds illegal


At this point, who knows...
 
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