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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 11:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:33 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 18 at 5:23 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 9:37 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>I don’t know how that would work or how we would settle the wager

Would you prefer Durzi over Rasmus Andersson, Hanifin or Weegar!? Because that’s a better comparison, since they’re offensive Defensemen

I would hope you’d prefer Zadorov &amp; Tanev over Durzi on the PK or when it comes to Blocking Shots, and certainly Big-Z over Durzi in a fight against Lucic, Reaves or Xhekaj

Durzi is definitely better offensively, but he wouldn’t fair too well in many of the roles we rely on Zadorov for. IOW they’re both Dmen, just not the same type, hence why ARI has Joshua Brown</div></div>

I don't know if I would prefer Durzi over Andersson, but his play this year is better than Weegar and Hanifin so far. Pretty he would lead our team in scoring with 5G, 10P in 14GP. That said, I don't watch Arizona enough to say he's better than our top D with any certainty. My point was that he returned a 2nd in trade, and he has as much value as Z to a team, though they both play a completely different game.

Honestly I don't really see the difference between Hanifin -Tanev and Zadorov - Tanev on the PK. Andersson - Weegar seems similar to Hanifin - Andersson. We'd definitely miss Tanev on the PK, but not Z. As far as fights go Z isn't a heavyweight fighter, and wouldn't be fighting the likes of Lucic. Remember when Lucic punched him in the face with the glove on? All Z did was hold onto Looch without even considering dropping the gloves.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 6:50 p.m.
Thread: Nowhere Fast
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>He's 6th in GSAx on Evolving Hockey
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I don't really agree with him letting in stinkers. I admittedly missed the Rangers game but he played great vs St. Louis and was left out to dry/unlucky vs Edmonton and Dallas on most of their goals (ie Robertson's shot being a knuckle shot from hitting Weegar's stick, his follow-through showed he was aiming high. Or Benn's shorty was not his fault at all, terrible coverage from Ras and no backcheck elsewhere).</div></div>

Here are some numbers from a discussion on CalgaryPuck on Nov 9th.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>Low Danger Save % Above Expected

Last season (min games played: 20)
- 1st Ullmark, 0.011 (actual: 0.984, expected: 0.973)
- 16th Skinner, 0.002 (actual: 0.972, expected: 0.971)
- 25th Markstrom, -0.002 (actual: 0.968, expected: 0.970)
This season (min games played: 3)
- 1st DeSmith, 0.018 (actual: 0.992, expected: 0.973)
- 16th Bobrovsky, 0.006 (actual: 0.977, expected: 0.971)
- 48th Markstrom, -0.017 (actual: 0.954, expected: 0.971)

Medium Danger Save % Above Expected

Last season (min games played: 20)
- 1st Samsonov, 0.047 (actual: 0.927, expected: 0.880)
- 16th Bobrovsky, 0.013 (actual: 0.888, expected: 0.876)
- 38th Markstrom, -0.009 (actual: 0.867, expected: 0.875)
This season (min games played: 3)
- 1st Comrie, 0.136 (actual: 1.000, expected: 0.864)
- 13th Markstrom, 0.032 (actual: 0.907, expected: 0.874)
- 16th Quick, 0.024 (actual: 0.907, expected: 0.883)

High Danger Save % Above Expected

Last season (min games played: 20)
- 1st Kochetkov, 0.145 (actual: 0.825, expected: 0.680)
- 16th Saros, 0.074 (actual: 0.757, expected: 0.682)
- 43rd Markstrom, 0.024 (actual: 0.700, expected: 0.676)
This season (min games played: 3)
- 1st Vladar, 0.285 (actual: 1.000, expected: 0.715)
- 16th Woll, 0.130 (actual: 0.786, expected: 0.655)
- 32nd Markstrom, 0.081 (actual: 0.781, expected: 0.697)

It seems Evolving Hockey views it differently. Personally I remember Markstrom making a bunch of great saves, but allowing 1 bad goal each game.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 6:22 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 6:15 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Sorry, but those aren't good comparables.

Is Durzi 6'6 250lbs!? Does he Hit, Block Shots, Kill Penalties, Drop the Gloves and is he a Leader like Zadorov!? Durzi's a Good Player, but he's more easily replaceable than Zadorov who is a rare breed and brings what GM's need &amp; want, especially come playoff time

Gavrikov is a LD and has never been nominated as an All-Star or Norris Trophy Candidate; Tanev, on the other hand, has and that was just a little over a season ago.

Quality Right Shot RD's are more rare and difficult to acquire and therefore more valuable, especially those considered to be Top Shut Down Defenders and Superior Skaters with Off the Charts Hockey IQ &amp; Vision, like Tanev has. What pushes Tanev's value over the top though is the retention and bidding war for his services. Some Team is going to have to pay more than the other 3-6+ Teams wanting Tanev come the TDL, so like Chiarot &amp; Savard, we should secure an over pay for Tanev</div></div>

I guess we'll see the return at the trade deadline.

IMO Durzi has been great in Arizona this year, and I would take him over Zadorov any day of the week.

As for Tanev, I'm certain there will be a lot of teams interested. That said, he's 33, and he doesn't look as solid defensively, as he did before. He loses a lot more board battles. He lost his man on the cycle in several plays that resulted in goals. He's also a little less effective at tying up sticks infront of the net. It all adds up.

I would agree with you if Tanev maintained the same level of play as last year. IMO, he hasn't.

Care to place a wager on the trade deadline outcome?
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 6:01 p.m.
Thread: Nowhere Fast
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 12 at 3:07 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Teams need Guys like Gilbert &amp; Greer come the Playoffs for sure, they bring Grit, Physicality, Fists a' Flurry and Injury Insurance. Teams need Vladar as well, they just don't realize it and can't get over his weak Sv% or underlying stats, because they don't watch him play or understand the situation in CGY

How much did we pay for Nick Ritchie and Troy Stetcher?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>
Not sure what makes you think that's an over pay for Tanev... Have you seen how many AGM's are on here wanting Tanev, he's got to be THE MOST WANTED and Traded for guy on this site.

The fact that Tanev looks like he lost a step this season. He also keeps getting hit, which makes me question his durability for this season and long term.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>
If you send a 2nd or equivalent prospect or it was part of a nice package of players, I'm sure a Team with Cap Space would take Klingberg 50% retained. It'll cost more like a 1st though if he's not retained on

From what I saw this season Klingberg is playing at a below replacement level. That's why even at $2M, he's more likely to hurt his new team than help it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>
You're not necessarily wrong about Lindholm under performing production wise not being great for his value, but who really cares, that doesn't mean he's not playing well right now and how often do Right Shot 1C's come available via Trade!???

Is Lindholm playing like a 1C this season? He's playing like a 2C so far IMO. I'm sure other teams notice that as well. He competes for sure, but you want to see more from a guy in his contract year.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>
What essentially becomes a 1st + 4th + Fleury for Zadorov with no retention, yes, that seems about right if not slightly much considering the demand he will receive and we still end up retaining over $2mil on Klingberg but received a 3rd for doing so. Not worth it to me though, I'd rather keep Big-Z for life

Z doesn't want to be here for life, and I doubt we'd be very happy if we paid him top 4 money for the rumored 6 year ask. Again I mentioned in another thread why I don't think that Z is worth more than a 2nd.

Again those are my opinions, and I would be happy if we got more for our players than my evaluation.