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Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 11:35 a.m.
Thread: Flames Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT declines chych has more value than a 34 yo G that has maybe 2-3 years left at being average.</div></div>

You clearly didn't watch our average goalie this year. You also probably don't put too much stock in <a href="https://evolving-hockey.com/stats/goalie_standard/?_inputs_&amp;std_gl_table=%22On-Ice%22&amp;std_gl_team=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_str=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_adj=%22Score%20%26%20Venue%22&amp;std_gl_range=%22Seasons%22&amp;std_gl_span=%22Regular%22&amp;std_gl_group=%22Team%2C%20Season%22&amp;std_gl_age1=%2217%22&amp;std_gl_age2=%2250%22&amp;std_gl_dft_yr=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_status=%22All%22&amp;std_gl_info=%22No%22&amp;std_gl_players=null&amp;std_gl_fa=%2250%22" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">goals saved above expected</a> where Markstrom is 3rd.

I don't mind you preferring Chychrun, I just find it funny that so many people are taking shots at Marky here, as though it would affect his actual trade value.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 8:29 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: Big CGY trade sets up big UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>It’s a good thing Yzerman’s not dumb enough to sell firsts for 34 year olds when almost his entire core is still U23 and not in the NHL. 😂

Your ownership probably should’ve taken that first when NJD was offering it, instead of foolishly thinking they could compete if they kept Markstrom.</div></div>

He's just dumb enough to sign Chiarot to that anchor of a contract. The same applies to Vrana, Holl, Husso, and Maatta. I guess that's why you guys are trying to dump those contracts on us.

Didn't Stevie Y, the Wizard, trade for Nick Leddy? Didn't he move up so he can draft Cossa ahead of Wyatt Johnston? That Hronek kid is also doing alright on the first pairing in VAN, but at least you have 36 y.o. Petry as a replacement.

But hey I guess our ownership is stupid for not taking a hypothetical trade. In which Holtz was rumored for retaining 9M on Markstrom, not a 1st.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 9:49 a.m.
Thread: Big CGY trade sets up big UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaquille_Oatmeal</b></div><div>Okay, which player would you rather keep as a Flames fan Matt Coronato or Markström?</div></div>

I can keep both so that's a moot point. Obviously, we're headed into a rebuild, so Coronato has a much better chance of helping the team in 3+ years. Markstrom's benefit would come in mentoring Wolf, and potentially increasing his ceiling, which I won't be able to gauge. Markstrom is also going to be the better player than Coronato in the next 2 years, so he will contribute to more wins and points in the standings(which we don't need).

As for Detroit, if you're still rebuilding, then sure keep your prospects, however if you're looking for players that will help you win this year then Markstrom is worth more to you than a 20% chance on someone better.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 8:23 a.m.
Thread: Big CGY trade sets up big UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaquille_Oatmeal</b></div><div>Just ignoring that there is pick #15 included? I'm definitely not trading a potential Anton Silayev/Liam Greentree/Michael Brandsegg-Nygård for a 34y old goalie. Think about it from the Red Wings perspective - Husso &amp; Holl can be bought out for cheap and Määttä holds little value still. Just need to do a little bit of Cap gymnastic and we can make it work.

When was the last time we saw an old goaltender get a Top 20 pick + a decent young player in return?
Why would a rebuilding team trade for a goaltender who isn't even here when we're truely competing?</div></div>

Not ignoring it, it's a decent pick and I think Markstrom alone is worth it.

Taken 15th from 2003-2018: Denisenko, Brannstrom, Kunin, Senyshyn, Larkin, Pulock, Ceci, Miller, Forbort, Holland, Karlsson, Plante, Helenius, O'Marra, Radulov, R. Nilsson.

There are 3/15(20%) great players - Karlsson, Miller and Larkin. And another 2/15(13%) I would be pretty happy with as draft picks/return for Markstrom - Pulock, Radulov. The other 10/15 are mostly busts and replacement level.

Until those players make an impact in the NHL they're just names on a page.

Taking Berggren for 3 cap dumps isn't something I'm too keen on.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 1:39 a.m.