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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 15, 2023
Published: Nov. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Harley, Thomas
  2. Marchment, Mason
Additional Details:
A few things I'm piecing together here.

1. Treliving called up Robertson to showcase his value. He doesn't view him as a bottom 6 guy and won't have him in the Leafs bottom six by EOY if he has his way.
2. Dallas REALLY wants Robertson. Toronto has just been waiting to create a bidding war.
3. Marchment is someone that Dallas wants to move. His contract is getting steep for the third line and he's underperforming.
4. Treliving wants Brodie out.
5. Dallas want a top 4 D who can play the Right Side.
2.
TOR
  1. Ingram, Connor
Additional Details:
1. Toronto doesn't want Domi at C come the playoffs.
2. My observation is that Domi can't play the wing effectively.
3. Coyotes are interested in Samsonov and tried to acquire him this summer.
4. Coyotes are aiming for the playoffs this year.

This deal seems like a smart way for Arizona to upgrade down the middle (which they need) without giving away futures.
3.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. Zadorov, Nikita ($1,875,000 retained)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2026 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Klingberg, John
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2026 1st round pick (TOR)
4.
TOR
  1. Jenner, Boone ($1,875,000 retained)
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,848,116$0$637,500$3,651,884
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$1,950,000$1,950,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Nov. 15, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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Congrats that Boone Jenner trade is the worst I’ve seen on here from a leafs fan. Impressive
Nov. 15, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: SK101
Congrats that Boone Jenner trade is the worst I’ve seen on here from a leafs fan. Impressive


It's actually pretty good on value. Strong argument that it would look Horrible for Toronto in 3+ years.
Nov. 15, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Rajvinder
It's actually pretty good on value. Strong argument that it would look Horrible for Toronto in 3+ years.


Lol I can’t tell if you’re serious or not
Nov. 15, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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Don’t see a Jenner being available

Flames Trade is close. Take one of the 3rd out and move the other + add Villeneuve going to the Flames and it’s better, but CGY may only want to retain on one of them to leave the other 2 spots to retain on Hanifin and Lindholm, especially if Klingberg is coming back

Tanev 50% Retained = 1st/Liljegren + Retention/3rd/Abruzzese/Jarnkrok + Sweetener/Villeneuve

Zadorov 50% Retained = 1st/Cowan + Player/Benoit

Klingberg + 3rd/Timmins/Niemela = Cap Dump

CGY Better Off to Retain on just one of them:

Tanev 50% Retained FOR (2024-1st/Liljegren + Abruzzese + Villeneuve) + Zadorov FOR (2nd+3rd/Minten + Benoit) + Cap Dump FOR (Klingberg + Niemela/3rd)
Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:53 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Don’t see a Jenner being available

Flames Trade is close. Take one of the 3rd out and move the other + add Villeneuve going to the Flames and it’s better, but CGY may only want to retain on one of them to leave the other 2 spots to retain on Hanifin and Lindholm, especially if Klingberg is coming back

Tanev 50% Retained = 1st/Liljegren + Retention/3rd/Abruzzese/Jarnkrok + Sweetener/Villeneuve

Zadorov 50% Retained = 1st/Cowan + Player/Benoit

Klingberg + 3rd/Timmins/Niemela = Cap Dump

CGY Better Off to Retain on just one of them:

Tanev 50% Retained FOR (2024-1st/Liljegren + Abruzzese + Villeneuve) + Zadorov FOR (2nd+3rd/Minten + Benoit) + Cap Dump FOR (Klingberg + Niemela/3rd)


Lol Klingberg will be free to dump at the deadline.
Zadorov is a 2nd max.
Tanev is worth less to than Lili by a significant margin.
Nov. 16, 2023 at 12:55 a.m.
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Quoting: SK101
Lol I can’t tell if you’re serious or not


It's a 30y old 3rd line C on a competitive team for a guy most think will be a solid two way top 6 C for the next 10+ years. He was able to do 80% of what Jenner could do earlier this year at 19.
Nov. 16, 2023 at 8:06 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 16, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
Quoting: Rajvinder
It's a 30y old 3rd line C on a competitive team for a guy most think will be a solid two way top 6 C for the next 10+ years. He was able to do 80% of what Jenner could do earlier this year at 19.


He has zero career points lmao. Jenner would be one of the best 3Cs in the league and is great in the playoffs. Not to mention he’s on a great deal even without retention. A guy who projects to be a career bottom line center with no NHL production is not even close to worth it. Not to mention Jenner is the captain and not available. Jenner is worth more to the jackets than he is to other teams. You are so far off on value ignoring the fact he’s not for trade
Nov. 16, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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How do you know that Dallas "really wants Robertson"? I haven't heard that once. Nor have I heard that they "want to move Marchment." No way Dallas gives up Harley and Marchment for Robertson and Brodie.
 
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