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Yeah I know it sucks

Created by: NotGoodGM
Published: Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 154/192 (80%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Markström, JacobCalgary FlamesNHL25%$4,500,000011-------2.720.905
Andersson, RasmusCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,550,000011---11246--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY)---100------
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Klingberg, JohnToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$4,150,000011---14055--
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL50%$3,481,183011---15101222--
Samsonov, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL25%$2,662,500011-------3.80.87
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,524,167224564369
Change-$1,243,683111-1-10
Final$280,484 (↓)23 (↑)46 (↑)65 (↑)2 (↓)5 (↓)981321

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Klingberg, JohnToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$4,150,000011---14055--
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL50%$3,481,183011---15101222--
Samsonov, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL25%$2,662,500011-------3.80.87
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Markström, JacobCalgary FlamesNHL25%$4,500,000011-------2.720.905
Andersson, RasmusCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,550,000011---11246--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY)---100------
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Calgary FlamesCGY)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$59,9992247632315
Change$1,243,683-1-1-1110
Final$1,303,682 (↑)21 (↓)46 (↓)62 (↓)3 (↑)4 (↑)15-8-13-21
Nov. 16, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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LOL, no chance Calgary does that!

Samsonov for Markstrom maybe but not with retention on Marky.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
LOL, no chance Calgary does that!

Samsonov for Markstrom maybe but not with retention on Marky.


I don't think I'd go that far. Markstrom has term and his number is quite large for someone who's so inconsistent. At least it gets a good chunk of one of many bloated contracts off the books. Truthfully, I just don't think Calgary needs or wants another goalie (I realize this is my own trade - I didn't say it was good).

On the other hand, William Nylander is one of the best players in the league right now and is capable of sustaining that level of play. He's also what Calgary seems to need to get Hub going - a winger who can shoot, score, and skate both with help and by themselves (in case Hub continues to suck).

On the retention front, keep in mind the trade proposes retention for Nylander as well to make the money work and he's the best player in the deal by a mile. You have to give up some value and that's Anderson and retention on Markstrom, who we probably don't need either. The first is a top up and the second may be where it goes overboard.
Nov. 17, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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Edited Nov. 17, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
Quoting: NotGoodGM
I don't think I'd go that far. Markstrom has term and his number is quite large for someone who's so inconsistent. At least it gets a good chunk of one of many bloated contracts off the books. Truthfully, I just don't think Calgary needs or wants another goalie (I realize this is my own trade - I didn't say it was good).

On the other hand, William Nylander is one of the best players in the league right now and is capable of sustaining that level of play. He's also what Calgary seems to need to get Hub going - a winger who can shoot, score, and skate both with help and by themselves (in case Hub continues to suck).

On the retention front, keep in mind the trade proposes retention for Nylander as well to make the money work and he's the best player in the deal by a mile. You have to give up some value and that's Anderson and retention on Markstrom, who we probably don't need either. The first is a top up and the second may be where it goes overboard.


There's absolutely no way Calgary trades Andersson who isn't being shopped in the first place.

They won't be trading valuable assets for an expensive rental either. Willy would have to come with a long term extension but Andersson still wouldn't be on the table. Hanifin and/or Tanev sure maybe even Weegar but definitely not Andersson.

And no we don't really want a goalie coming back but can live with a goalie like Samsonov who makes less money and is a pending UFA.
Nov. 18, 2023 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
There's absolutely no way Calgary trades Andersson who isn't being shopped in the first place.

They won't be trading valuable assets for an expensive rental either. Willy would have to come with a long term extension but Andersson still wouldn't be on the table. Hanifin and/or Tanev sure maybe even Weegar but definitely not Andersson.

And no we don't really want a goalie coming back but can live with a goalie like Samsonov who makes less money and is a pending UFA.


If Toronto called up Calgary and said they'd trade Nylander and he wants to sign a long term extension with them, Calgary would 100% trade Andersson. He isn't being shopped but it's not like he's untouchable. I doubt Nylander would be willing to do that so it's a moot point anyways.
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Nov. 21, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 22, 2023 at 9:17 a.m.
Quoting: MoxNix
There's absolutely no way Calgary trades Andersson who isn't being shopped in the first place.

They won't be trading valuable assets for an expensive rental either. Willy would have to come with a long term extension but Andersson still wouldn't be on the table. Hanifin and/or Tanev sure maybe even Weegar but definitely not Andersson.

And no we don't really want a goalie coming back but can live with a goalie like Samsonov who makes less money and is a pending UFA.


Quoting: SuperMario66
If Toronto called up Calgary and said they'd trade Nylander and he wants to sign a long term extension with them, Calgary would 100% trade Andersson. He isn't being shopped but it's not like he's untouchable. I doubt Nylander would be willing to do that so it's a moot point anyways.


Yeah, you're both right here. Nylander likely doesn't want anything Calgary but I would be surprised if they wouldn't send Anderson back if he were to sign long-term bc you aren't getting Nylander for nothing. But like MoxNix said, Calgary has a lot of UFA defencemen and they're not focused on trading good (content) players on good contracts at the moment.

It's a hypothetical trade, not an expected one. But as a leaf fan, I don't want Zadorov (too much money for a bottom pairing UFA who doesn't kill penalties and may end up in TO next year through free agency), I don't want Tanev (essentially paying to acquire a second TJ Brodie but older), and I don't see a need for Hanifin who is Morgan Rielly 2.0 and will cost too much for a second pairing LD.

Leafs need a 1st or 2nd pair D that can play solid defence and hopefully kill penalties.
 
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