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Not Their Year

Created by: JackSC87
Team: 2023-24 Seattle Kraken
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2023
Published: Dec. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
SEA
  1. Blueger, Teddy
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Wennberg, Alexander ($2,250,000 retained)
2.
SEA
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Schultz, Justin ($1,500,000 retained)
3.
SEA
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Eberle, Jordan ($2,750,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$78,681,576$129,910$1,850,000$4,818,424
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
C
RFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 12, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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Do you realize Vancouver doesn't have enough cap space to afford Wennberg.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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Canucks pass. Not giving up a 2nd and 3rd for a marginal upgrade.

If Seattle wants to sell I'd love Larsson though.
Dec. 13, 2023 at 12:56 a.m.
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I appreciate you knowing that even if Seattle ends up selling this deadline it will likely be a soft sell of rental players with an eye towards reloading for next year, instead of a full teardown involving the selling of key players. Kudos!

Some minor feedback on your trades: While I would love to get a first rounder for Eberle, I don't really see that happening unless he picks up his scoring. Right now, I'd peg his value at around a second round pick plus a decent prospect/young NHLer in need of a change of scenery. The return on Wennberg might be a touch optimistic too, I would say he nets a second rounder but maybe not second and third rounders. I think you have about the right value on Schultz, although with him being half retained I think the Kraken might be able to extract a halfway decent prospect in addition to the third round pick, but that's a minor point. There's a lot of time left between now and the trade deadline though, so player valuations could easily change as we get closer to deadline day.

As a Kraken fan, this is a lot better than most Kraken ACGM's that I usually see on this site, so once again, kudos!
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Dec. 13, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.
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Eberle isn't worth a first round pick, plus Vegas would want retention
Dec. 13, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
Do you realize Vancouver doesn't have enough cap space to afford Wennberg.


They would with the way I have to deal laid out, one of Blueger or Suter going the other way and half retained.
Dec. 13, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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Quoting: SpinyLiving
Eberle isn't worth a first round pick, plus Vegas would want retention



I added 50% retained, and Eberle with deadline inflation value is definitely worth a late first, I would say an early second maybe but Vegas doesn’t have that.
Dec. 13, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
Canucks pass. Not giving up a 2nd and 3rd for a marginal upgrade.

If Seattle wants to sell I'd love Larsson though.


I think calling Wennberg a “marginal upgrade” over Suter or Blueger is quite the insult to Wennberg honestly. And I’m really not gonna say much about it other than go look at their points totals over the last few years.

Second, I do agree that Larsson would fit well in VAN but I’m unsure if they’d be looking to sell guys with multiple years still on their deal.
Dec. 13, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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Quoting: KrakenTheCode
I appreciate you knowing that even if Seattle ends up selling this deadline it will likely be a soft sell of rental players with an eye towards reloading for next year, instead of a full teardown involving the selling of key players. Kudos!

Some minor feedback on your trades: While I would love to get a first rounder for Eberle, I don't really see that happening unless he picks up his scoring. Right now, I'd peg his value at around a second round pick plus a decent prospect/young NHLer in need of a change of scenery. The return on Wennberg might be a touch optimistic too, I would say he nets a second rounder but maybe not second and third rounders. I think you have about the right value on Schultz, although with him being half retained I think the Kraken might be able to extract a halfway decent prospect in addition to the third round pick, but that's a minor point. There's a lot of time left between now and the trade deadline though, so player valuations could easily change as we get closer to deadline day.

As a Kraken fan, this is a lot better than most Kraken ACGM's that I usually see on this site, so once again, kudos!


Thank you for you honest and kind feedback. It was a nice breath of fresh air on this site. I completely understand what you’re saying for each point, but my reasoning essentially boiled down to the fact that deadline deals tend to have inflated costs (hence Wennberg netting a 2nd + 3rd). And I definitely agree on the Eberle thing and I probably would’ve chosen a second round pick if Vegas had one that wasn’t gonna be pick #60-64.
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Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:21 a.m.
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I think calling Wennberg a “marginal upgrade” over Suter or Blueger is quite the insult to Wennberg honestly. And I’m really not gonna say much about it other than go look at their points totals over the last few years.

Second, I do agree that Larsson would fit well in VAN but I’m unsure if they’d be looking to sell guys with multiple years still on their deal.


Suter and Wennberg have pretty much identical point totals 2 of the last 3 years. Wennberg is also a sub 40pt guy. I like Wennberg and he's better than Blueger but I don't think by enough to really change much and I think Suter and Wennberg are pretty damn equal. Suter is very very strong defensively and on the PK.
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