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Created by: Kitch
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2023
Published: Dec. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Dellandrea, Ty
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
2.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
CGY
  1. Holmberg, Pontus
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (CGY)
3.
DET
  1. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
4.
STL
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Samsonov, Ilya
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
  6. 2026 3rd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,359,783$0$0$4,140,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,600,000$1,600,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 15, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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Leafs won’t do the Dallas trade or the St. Louis trade of that I have no doubt, no one wants parayko he’s overpaid and on the decline
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.
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Calgary declines hard.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Calgary declines hard.


All the insiders ‘The flames are looking for a 2nd and a prospect or are hopeful for a 1st’

‘OmG MiNtEn & A 1sT’

Then you guys all expect a 1st, 2nd, blue chip prospect and a project for a center without a extension who rode Tkachuk and Gaudreaus coat tails to one good season 2 years ago
Dec. 15, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.
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Why do Leafs fan keep thinking Samsonov is a piece they can trade to STL?
Dec. 15, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 15, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
Quoting: Kitch
All the insiders ‘The flames are looking for a 2nd and a prospect or are hopeful for a 1st’

‘OmG MiNtEn & A 1sT’

Then you guys all expect a 1st, 2nd, blue chip prospect and a project for a center without a extension who rode Tkachuk and Gaudreaus coat tails to one good season 2 years ago


No they aren't. They're saying they think teams (more specifically the Leafs) are offering a 2nd and a project. Fact is the Flames aren't saying what they're asking and Treliving never gets into specifics about trade negotiations. A lot of GMs don't want trade negotiation specifics going public at all many won't even negotiate much with teams that are known for leaking things.

Lindholm didn't ride the tiny one's coattails it was the other way around. Lindholm and Tkachuk carried the soft little complimentary player, doing all the hard work and making him look good.

Dunno where you get this Minten and a 1st for Tanev alone from. For Tanev+ yeah sure. Even more depending on what the + is, if it's Tanev + Hanifin it'd take more than that. But for Tanev alone Minten + a 2nd or 3rd should be good.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Sunquist, Dellandra, Kapanean are not better what the Leafs have now (maybe Sunquist would be better)_
But an overpayment for Parayko for sure. So....you've traded two RHD Brodie and Timmins, for Tanev and Pararyko.....Is that so much of an improvement to give a 1st,2nd, Minten, and more as a premium.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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Why do Leafs fan keep thinking Samsonov is a piece they can trade to STL?


Well the reason is for cap reasons's to make a trade, if the Blues were sellers. It's better for the Blues than retaining Parayko for six years, as Samsonov is in the last year of his contract.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 7:17 p.m.
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Blues say no obviously
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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Well the reason is for cap reasons's to make a trade, if the Blues were sellers. It's better for the Blues than retaining Parayko for six years, as Samsonov is in the last year of his contract.


Okaaaay, but the Blues already have goalies falling out of their ears.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.
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no one wants parayko he’s overpaid and on the decline



Ya know, you guys keep saying this stuff despite the facts that a) he's been excellent all through 2023, b) he's constantly linked to interest from other teams & 3) he's even more constantly traded for in AGMs, including an incessant parade of Leafs AGMs.

Is it a reflex? Like an involuntary spasm? I'm genuinely baffled. It's just intentionally being wrong at this point.
Dec. 15, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Okaaaay, but the Blues already have goalies falling out of their ears.


Yeah, you don't even to play Samsonov. It's just a replacement for cap retention.
Funny about goalies and Samsonov. He was really good last year. This year very irregular. You just never know. But he certainly is playing himself out of a nice contract in his upcoming UFA summer.
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Dec. 15, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Yeah, you don't even to play Samsonov. It's just a replacement for cap retention.

Funny about goalies and Samsonov. He was really good last year. This year very irregular. You just never know. But he certainly is playing himself out of a nice contract in his upcoming UFA summer.


1 - And why do the Blues owe cap retention for free?

2 - Agreed.
 
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