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Sorokin for Hughes

Created by: chealy2
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 21, 2023
Published: Dec. 21, 2023
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  1. Sorokin, Ilya
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Saw this on Twitter and thought it was an interesting concept. I think the devils have more reason to say no than the isles (and it’s not close) but I wanted to see what devils fans say considering it was an isles fan on twitter that posted it
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 7:15 a.m.
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Do you really think you'd get one of those four? A top center in the league, his brother with elite potential, their star center captain, and star winger, all on an ELC or a great contract?


Nope. But do you really think the Isles would give up Sorokin for anybody else the Devils have?
Dec. 28, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: tm0000
Nope. But do you really think the Isles would give up Sorokin for anybody else the Devils have?


I never said they would
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: tm0000
Nope. But do you really think the Isles would give up Sorokin for anybody else the Devils have?


Sorokin has an 8.25 mill contract till he’s 37 coming. If the isles decide that the current core can’t win a cup this is their best chance to sell while he still has a year at 4 and no trade protection.

2 years from now trying to sell Sorokins age 31-37 years at 8+ million with a full NMC won’t return a haul
Dec. 28, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Sorokin has an 8.25 mill contract till he’s 37 coming. If the isles decide that the current core can’t win a cup this is their best chance to sell while he still has a year at 4 and no trade protection.

2 years from now trying to sell Sorokins age 31-37 years at 8+ million with a full NMC won’t return a haul


Whether they can get a haul or not a few years from now is irrelevant. There's zero chance the Isles trade him any time in the near future for anything other than a generational-type superstar, if they'd even trade him at all.
Dec. 28, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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Quoting: tm0000
Whether they can get a haul or not a few years from now is irrelevant. There's zero chance the Isles trade him any time in the near future for anything other than a generational-type superstar, if they'd even trade him at all.


A 30 year old goalie is risky and has limited trade value.

If you believe the team around Sorokin right now is enough to make a cup run, keep him for the next few years trying to compete and then be stuck in the muck for 5 years after if it doesn’t. It’s what Lou did with Schneider in NJD too.

If not you trade him and acknowledge what he is, which is a guy who signed a UFA market value deal with significant risk attached due to the term.

Theres a reason he got less money than Bo Horvat in free agency. Goalie value isn’t that high around the league
Dec. 28, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
A 30 year old goalie is risky and has limited trade value.

If you believe the team around Sorokin right now is enough to make a cup run, keep him for the next few years trying to compete and then be stuck in the muck for 5 years after if it doesn’t. It’s what Lou did with Schneider in NJD too.

If not you trade him and acknowledge what he is, which is a guy who signed a UFA market value deal with significant risk attached due to the term.

Theres a reason he got less money than Bo Horvat in free agency. Goalie value isn’t that high around the league


Fourth highest paid goalie in the league once the extension kicks in. That's how the Isles value him. One of the very best at his position.

As far as age concerns, goalies tend to age better than skaters so he should be fine for the next five or six years at least.
Dec. 28, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Fourth highest paid goalie in the league once the extension kicks in. That's how the Isles value him. One of the very best at his position.

As far as age concerns, goalies tend to age better than skaters so he should be fine for the next five or six years at least.


Goalies aging well is a myth. Very few goalies have performed well from ages 33 up. In fact over the last 5 years just 4 goalies have been quality starters from age 33-37. Miller, Thomas, Nabokov, and Lundkvist.

Lundkvist is really the only one who played at an elite level through his 30s, and even that was a significant drop off from what he was in his late 20s
 
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