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Created by: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 22, 2023

Published: Dec. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

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Gibson, John ($3,200,000 retained)

ANA

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$79,918,950	$0	$0	$3,581,050

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Gibson, John $3,200,000$3,200,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Holmberg, Pontus $800,000$800,000 C, LW RFA - 2		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Anaheim, a small-market franchise, won't retain in excess of $10 million no matter what the trade return for John Gibson is (within any rational and realistic limits).

Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.

GeneralLandro

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Anaheim wants nothing to do with $3,200,000 for 4 years

John Gibson wants nothing to do with Toronto

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.

MediocrityAccetableInToronto

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Anaheim wants nothing to do with $3,200,000 for 4 years

John Gibson wants nothing to do with Toronto

Has Gibson stated this?

Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.

Vancity2196

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No way Toronto is doing this trade.
They can't afford Gibson and his massive contract.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:50 p.m.

MediocrityAccetableInToronto

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Anaheim, a small-market franchise, won't retain in excess of $10 million no matter what the trade return for John Gibson is (within any rational and realistic limits).

If no salary retention does Anaheim accept?

Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.

MediocrityAccetableInToronto

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Quoting: Vancity2196

No way Toronto is doing this trade.
They can't afford Gibson and his massive contract.

It’s $3.2 over 4 years for a starting goalie, less than what Samsonov’s being paid. Cap is also going up

Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

Has Gibson stated this?

Yes, And how many times does it need repeating, Gibson won't waive for Toronto or any Canadian team for that Matter.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

If no salary retention does Anaheim accept?

Probably, but Gibson has a no-trade clause which almost certainly includes Toronto, and he's unlikely to waive it.

As much as we Anaheim guys hate to admit it, that's probably Gibson's worth on the open market. But I don't see anyone where Gibson is likely to want to go making an effective offer for him.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:57 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

If no salary retention does Anaheim accept?

It doesn't matter dude, it's all irrelevant as John Gibson doesn't waive for Canada.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.

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MoSeider53

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Pat Verbeek isn't eating $12,800,000 on John Gibson, Nor does he waive for Toronto.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.

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Giakki

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The dont do that trade two good rookies for a washed up goalie. Rather play woll

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.

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MitchJr

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Mediocrity is acceptable in Toronto but you trade the farm for a below average goalie 🤦🏻

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:16 p.m.

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MediocrityAccetableInToronto

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Quoting: MitchJr

Mediocrity is acceptable in Toronto but you trade the farm for a below average goalie 🤦🏻

He’s been on some terrible Anaheim teams hence his numbers. His numbers this year on a bad team are pretty good. Gonna be several weeks before they get Woll back and Jones and Samsonov are terrible

Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.

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MitchJr

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

He’s been on some terrible Anaheim teams hence his numbers. His numbers this year on a bad team are pretty good. Gonna be several weeks before they get Woll back and Jones and Samsonov are terrible

Gibson has been bad to terrible for many years now. Yes Anaheim were and still are rebuilding but just plain ridiculous and embarrassing to trade the farm for a 6 week goalie. Dude has a terrible contract to boot

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.

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GolfBall

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Quoting: MitchJr

Mediocrity is acceptable in Toronto but you trade the farm for a below average goalie 🤦🏻

Agreed. Gibson can be great, but so can Jones & the salary differential is huge. No way Toronto sells includes Hildeby & Minten.

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Dec. 22, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.

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Bee

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Edited Jan. 31 at 3:09 p.m.

Dec. 22, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.

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Vancity2196

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

It’s $3.2 over 4 years for a starting goalie, less than what Samsonov’s being paid. Cap is also going up

True.
You got a good point.

Dec. 23, 2023 at 3:55 a.m.

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jaok3

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Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto

He’s been on some terrible Anaheim teams hence his numbers. His numbers this year on a bad team are pretty good. Gonna be several weeks before they get Woll back and Jones and Samsonov are terrible

Minten is a physical ELC contract the leafs need with a lot of potential. Hildeby is a 6'5" goalie in his first year in North America and has been playing real good for the Marlies. Leafs aren't moving him either.

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