What would be the market for selling Dougie

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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2024

Published: Jan. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I don’t want to sell him, but would have to be considered for a few reasons….

1. Nemec has played well beyond expectations and unlikely he is ever sent down again.
2. We have Marino locked up.
3. Dougie history…3 years in Boston, 3 years in Calgary, 3 years in Carolina, 3 years in New Jersey…(for fans of symmetry)
4. Big cap hit
5. Luke already replaced Dougie on PP1 before the injury.
6. It makes for good outside-the-box ACGM (the real reason)

Where would he go?

- Probably outside the division
- Team with cap space
- Team on bubble
- Team that needs top-4 RHD
- Team with need for offensive dman
- Team he would waive NTC to

Rough guess….
Arizona
Buffalo
Calgary (again)
Florida (if Forsling and/or Montour move on)
Minnesota
Nashville
St Louis
Winnipeg

How much would get?

Some comps to consider
- Subban: Two 2nds and lesser pieces.
- Karlsson: Five overpaid guys and 1st
- Jones: two 1sts, 2nd
- Weber: Subban

I don’t think NJD would have much interest in picks only transaction. So would probably look for something like a lesser defensive dman plus a forward or goalie.

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Again, I don’t think we move him. But am curious what the Dougie market would look like.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Gritsyuk, Arseni		2	$950,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mercer, Dawson	8	$6,500,000
McLeod, Michael	5	$3,750,000
Schmid, Akira	2	$1,200,000
Daws, Nico	2	$1,000,000
Foote, Cal	2	$800,000
Foote, Nolan	2	$800,000
Clarke, Graeme	2	$800,000
Halonen, Brian	2	$800,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Brendan		1	$775,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Defensive, Dman	1	$4,000,000
Scoring, Winger	1	$6,000,000
Two way, Dman	1	$6,000,000

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$87,700,000	$89,226,397	$1,538,897	$5,950,000	-$1,526,397

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Hughes, Jack $8,000,000$8,000,000 C UFA - 6	Bratt, Jesper $7,875,000$7,875,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 7
Palat, Ondrej $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Hischier, Nico $7,250,000$7,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Scoring, Winger $6,000,000$6,000,000
Meier, Timo $8,800,000$8,800,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	McLeod, Michael $3,750,000$3,750,000 C RFA	Mercer, Dawson $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C RFA
Foote, Nolan $800,000$800,000 LW RFA	Haula, Erik $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD/RD RFA - 1	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Vanecek, Vitek $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 1
Two way, Dman $6,000,000$6,000,000	Defensive, Dman $4,000,000$4,000,000	Schmid, Akira $1,200,000$1,200,000 G RFA
Siegenthaler, Jonas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Nemec, Simon $918,333$918,333 ($3,250,000$3M) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Smith, Brendan $775,000$775,000 LD/RD, LW UFA		Hamilton, Dougie $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4
Bahl, Kevin $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD RFA - 1
Bastian, Nathan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Clarke, Graeme $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, C RFA
Gritsyuk, Arseni $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW RFA
Daws, Nico $1,000,000$1,000,000 ($0$0$0$0) G RFA

Jan. 5 at 2:06 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: crimsonchin23

Trouba is +9, Hamilton is -8. Trouba has double the points excluding PP, which is is not on, and he actually plays defense unlike Hamilton. Plus he isn't a locker room cancer who has never lasted longer than three years on a team. Plus he is an actual leader. Hamilton wishes he was Trouba.

Glad to hear you think Igor Shesterkin and Quick are equivalent in play to vitek vanacek

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Jan. 5 at 2:08 p.m.

#27

crimsonchin23

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Quoting: dgibb10

Glad to hear you think Igor Shesterkin and Quick are equivalent in play to vitek vanacek

Hamilton wasn't even good at defense when he was on the canes who had one of the best defensive systems in the league. One of the many reasons they didn't re-sign him

Jan. 5 at 2:11 p.m.

#28

dgibb10

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Quoting: crimsonchin23

Hamilton wasn't even good at defense when he was on the canes who had one of the best defensive systems in the league. One of the many reasons they didn't re-sign him

And yet trouba has given up more shots, goals, and expected goals than Hamilton 5v5 over the past 2 years.

Has he tried playing better?

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Jan. 5 at 2:18 p.m.

#29

crimsonchin23

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Quoting: dgibb10

And yet trouba has given up more shots, goals, and expected goals than Hamilton 5v5 over the past 2 years.

Has he tried playing better?

Since you're using other players in this conversation, why don't you look at how Dougie has played with a great DFD in Siegs that lets him focus on his offense, while Trouba has played with a young D in Miller who Trouba constantly has to recover for Miller's mistakes. I'm done arguing with someone who has no idea what they are talking about

Jan. 5 at 2:19 p.m.

#30

dgibb10

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Quoting: crimsonchin23

Trouba has been below 50% xgoals share for 6 consecutive years and counting. Has he considered playing better?

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