1st 3 were on expiring deals and Chychrun got a bit less of a return cause of his injury history and the gm being greedy

Teams are always desperate for defense

All also had retention down to dirt cheap cap hits to to save money. Doubt Pitt does that.

Less than the Chych deal is a given since his value was seen as much higher league wide and Chych had an extra year of term.

I just don’t see much more than my offer out there for 2x4 Pettersson expiring as UFA.

Desperate enough to give up a 1st. Certainly. When it comes to giving up anything much more than that teams start to get very selective

Based on value, CHI probably accepts. It is entirely possible you could get retention on Dickinson for a 2nd, too. I just don't know what exactly CHI wants to do, but I have a feeling they probably want to bring Dickinson back next season. So, if that means extending him before the end of the season and not moving him at the TDL, he might not be available.

I thought about asking for retention but I’d rather have a 4th back instead, not as meaningful to chi with the quantity of picks they have but meaningful to jersey

Pens just keep him if no teams offer anything reasonable. Simple as that. You're the one asking for him.
I have not seen any pens fans wanting to trade him. Just fans of other teams wanting him.
He's a top pair dman on a great deal. The market for him would be huge. Lots of teams could easily offer a better package than the ones you proposed.

It's sad we prolly will never see the results since the pens will be looking to buy haha

Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. CHI would probably be happy with that, too, if they have any other prospective deals in the works that require retention.

I don’t know who else would be being traded on chi but I’d imagine Mrazek and Johnson if moved would need to be with retention if they were sold in all likelihood and the 3rd slot is used up for McCabe already

Like I said. His market value imo is around 7 million (which is a very generous estimation)

For 2 years that’s 6 mill in surplus value, with risk of a decline/fall off/injury next year or this year.

1st+3rd+Prospect

Yup that certainly is your opinion.
Like I said. if you don't want to offer anything reasonable you won't be getting him. No skin off the penguins back who will gladly keep their top pairing left D on a great contract instead of selling him to a division rival for significantly less than his value.

Please tell me the monetary value of Marcus Pettersson then

Really because you seem to have a habit of giving away quality underpaid dman around 4 mill for nothing?

See Matheson, Mike & Marino, John

Sure.
Right after you tell me why the penguins should sell their top left D on a great contract to a division rival for less than he is worth.

lol yeah you must live under a rock then to not realize the fired that GM because he was so horrible. Great comparison pal

A) it’s not less than he’s worth
B) it’s better to sell an asset then lose it for nothing in free agency, especially if you’re gonna have to start a rebuild sooner or later and you have already traded away a 1st and have among the worst prospect pools in hockey

Pens would definitely keep him instead of selling him for less than he is worth . They have been the best team of the cap era . Having a terrible prospect pool comes with that .
Everyone knows they are going to absolutely fall off a cliff when Sid and geno retire . That’s not a good reason to help boost rivals with bad trades. A bottom pair dman, a winger , or a 1st round pick is not going to save them from the horrible years after Sid & Geno

Starting the retool now can turn the rebuild from 10 years to 5.

But that’s not what they are going to do lol.
The second geno and letang signed those extensions it should have become clear to everyone that follows hockey . They will not rebuild while Sid and geno are still playing .
Don’t worry , the NHL will gift them the next generational talent once Sid retires

Toffoli a soon to be UFA who is superfluous on the Pens. They are 2nd in xgoals for and 13th in expected goals against.

Pettersson is a top line shutdown defenseman signed for another year at a big discount. Worth much more than a winger the Pens don't need.



The Pens aren't rebuilding either. They are currently 4 points out of 2nd in their division.

Wouldn’t call a part of the PP1 on the best PP in hockey superfluous to one of the worst PPs in hockey

It is not less than he is worth? Maybe. But the Pens are competing. They have to be paid MUCH MORE than a guy is "worth" to trade him.

Would he help? Sure. But I care less about the PP which is 4-6 min per night and more about the 25 min Pettersson is playing 5v5