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Reading into Rutherfords comments a little too much

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Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2024
Published: Jan. 11, 2024
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Not saying this gets it done but JR/PA love these guys, this team should go all in this year. Have Crosby next year too. Just throwing an absolute wild idea out there.
Pittsburgh can flip Ian Cole for additional assets.

Again, just a crazy idea.
Trades
VAN
  1. Crosby, Sidney ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
PIT
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Klimovich, Danila
  3. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  4. Pettersson, Elias
  5. Podkolzin, Vasily
  6. Silovs, Arturs
  7. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
  8. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  9. 2025 1st round pick (VAN)
  10. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
  11. 2026 2nd round pick (VAN)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$81,955,417$850,000$0$1,544,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2

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Jan. 11 at 12:24 a.m.
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Jan. 11 at 12:25 a.m.
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This trade is 100% pathetic.
Easy pass for Penguins.
Crosby and Guentzel are keepers, and they’re easily staying not going.
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Jan. 11 at 12:31 a.m.
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Lmfao, at least make a legit deal.

You don't have any of Willander, Raty or Lekkerimaki. A trade of this magnitude doesn't even start to be discussed without at least 1 of them if not two.

Silovs is of no interest at all, the pens AHL goalie is the same age and having a vastly better season and they have a very highly touted prospect in russia.
Jan. 11 at 12:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
This trade is 100% pathetic.
Easy pass for Penguins.
Crosby and Guentzel are keepers, and they’re easily staying not going.


Crosby will never leave the penguins, and should he it will not be to the canucks (Sorry canucks fans)
Jan. 11 at 12:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
This trade is 100% pathetic.
Easy pass for Penguins.
Crosby and Guentzel are keepers, and they’re easily staying not going.


Quoting: pens1991
Lmfao, at least make a legit deal.

You don't have any of Willander, Raty or Lekkerimaki. A trade of this magnitude doesn't even start to be discussed without at least 1 of them if not two.

Silovs is of no interest at all, the pens AHL goalie is the same age and having a vastly better season and they have a very highly touted prospect in russia.



I get what both of you are saying but saying easy pass is a joke. When you break down the trade in half, then you consider one is a UFA and a 36 year old year old C? Sure you can add 1 or 2 of raty, lekki, willander. Then all the sudden it’s a deal by adding one of them? The frame work for a trade “of this magnitude” is right there. But saying EASY pass is outrageous. That pits team isn’t doing anything and they’re gonna have to rebuild sooner than later.
Jan. 11 at 12:57 a.m.
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easy and i mean easy pass,Dubas blocks your number
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Jan. 11 at 12:57 a.m.
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I get what both of you are saying but saying easy pass is a joke. When you break down the trade in half, then you consider one is a UFA and a 36 year old year old C? Sure you can add 1 or 2 of raty, lekki, willander. Then all the sudden it’s a deal by adding one of them? The frame work for a trade “of this magnitude” is right there. But saying EASY pass is outrageous. That pits team isn’t doing anything and they’re gonna have to rebuild sooner than later.


Again, easy pass. You need to make it worth something for Pittsburgh to even consider trading away one of the greatest players of all time who at 36 is still playing at an unbelievably high rate.

Ian cole = Cap Dump
Kuzmenko = Cap Dump, turning 28 soon and has come down off his breakout year last year. That doesn't help a rebuild.
Klimovich = hasn't been anything special
Pettersson and Podkolzin = sure, some of the better prospects Vancouver has, still not the top 3.
Silovs = Again, zero value or interest to the penguins Blomqvist is the same age and having a better season, Murashov playing in the KHL/MHL at 19 and looking very solid.

"sure you can add 1 or 2 of raty, lekki, willander. Then all the sudden it's a deal by adding one of them?" uh yeah... you have to give up high value prospects if you think you're going to land Gunetzel and Crosby with retention lol.

You want to acquire a penguins Icon and one of the greatest players ever, that all has added value.

Plus Crosby wouldn't waive to go to Vancouver.
Jan. 11 at 1:13 a.m.
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I wouldn’t be so sure that he doesn’t waive to come to Vancouver. Playing for Rutherford again and a chance to bring the cup back to Canada and for a team to win its first? Playing with Hughes, EP40, demko, miller + this coaching staff? Don’t think that doesn’t get someone thinking. Just gotta think outside the box sometimes. That package will need to have some pieces added or swapped, but don’t for a moment think JR/PA wouldn’t make a huuuge swing. I wouldn’t put it at a 0% chance. IMO
Jan. 11 at 1:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Pensfan303
easy and i mean easy pass,Dubas blocks your number


Dubas doesn’t block my number and works with all the picks and podz, d-Pettersson. You’re out to lunch if you think that isn’t the frame work with bigger pieces swapped in that package.
Jan. 11 at 1:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Naslund
I get what both of you are saying but saying easy pass is a joke. When you break down the trade in half, then you consider one is a UFA and a 36 year old year old C? Sure you can add 1 or 2 of raty, lekki, willander. Then all the sudden it’s a deal by adding one of them? The frame work for a trade “of this magnitude” is right there. But saying EASY pass is outrageous. That pits team isn’t doing anything and they’re gonna have to rebuild sooner than later.


Naaahh this is an easy pass for pens. No framework here at all. It's just a bunch of stuff.
Jan. 11 at 1:42 a.m.
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Naaahh this is an easy pass for pens. No framework here at all. It's just a bunch of stuff.


2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, podz, d-Pettersson. Just a bunch of stuff tears of joy
Jan. 11 at 9:07 a.m.
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No, Canadian teams suddenly outperforming what people thought they were going to do doesn't entitle them to Crosby. This is a joke.
Jan. 11 at 12:55 p.m.
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No, Canadian teams suddenly outperforming what people thought they were going to do doesn't entitle them to Crosby. This is a joke.


No one’s entitling anything. Gentz isn’t signing with you, he’s getting traded. No one would stay on that sinking ship with those old anchors on the roster.

I’ll be sure to come back here to dunk after Crosby comes to Van in 2 years.
Jan. 11 at 1:11 p.m.
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No one’s entitling anything. Gentz isn’t signing with you, he’s getting traded. No one would stay on that sinking ship with those old anchors on the roster.

I’ll be sure to come back here to dunk after Crosby comes to Van in 2 years.


Hahaha 😂 you guys are pathetic. Half a season of winning and you think you are king ****.
Jan. 11 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Naslund
2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, podz, d-Pettersson. Just a bunch of stuff tears of joy


You're asking for Sidney fckn Crosby and their top winger.
Jan. 11 at 2:42 p.m.
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Dubas doesn’t block my number and works with all the picks and podz, d-Pettersson. You’re out to lunch if you think that isn’t the frame work with bigger pieces swapped in that package.


He does indeed block your number the moment sid is brought up
 
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