I would cry if the Leafs traded all of that for Savard. He is a warrior. He is huge. He is super tough. But on a cup contender, he is a #5 dman. MAX a #4.

Leafs don't need a #5. We need a #3 or better.

So I would pass hard on that.

Jenner would be a great add. But I am quite confident Columbus would want Minten coming back the other way. So I assume Columbus passes.

Savard retained isnt worth the 4th, that'd be an all timer of a bad trade for the leafs

Yes, exactly. If we're trading a top-6 C, we need a decent shot at a new top-6 C coming back. Bump Robertson to Cowan, or to Minten and add an additional 3rd, and I think the conversations get started.

ill gladly give you both minten and robertson

So Minten, Robertson, the 2024 1st, and the 2025 3rd? I could see CBJ accepting that, but I'd still preface it with Jarmo and JD are probably fired first.