Marner

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Created by: sobrien6187

Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 19, 2024

Published: Jan. 19, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Feeling out Marner value with TML fans. Flyers are a wagon and TML is crumbling at the worst time. Nylander is re-signed and Marner is going to be looking for more than TML can afford, and the 4 pillars and a pile of crap roster plan hasn't worked yet.

This alleviates TMLs Cap situation (and some additional moves to help the Flyers new Cap issues) and provides them some young, affordable skill to work with, and high picks to rebuild their barren asset pool.

(Half of what I said was meant to trigger some if you come at me with some spice, go touch some snow)

Trades

PHI

Marner, Mitchell

TOR

Brink, Bobby
Frost, Morgan
York, Cam
2024 1st round pick (FLA)
2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
2025 2nd round pick (ANA)
2025 4th round pick (PHI)

PHI

2024 6th round pick (NYR)

NYR

Staal, Marc

PHI

2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
2025 4th round pick (TOR)

MIN

Walker, Sean

Buyouts

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $3,571,428 (50%)

Buried

Cal Petersen: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$88,184,262	$1,187,500	$32,500	-$4,684,262

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Cates, Noah $2,625,000$2,625,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Tippett, Owen $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2
Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Poehling, Ryan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Hathaway, Garnet $2,375,000$2,375,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Lycksell, Olle $787,500$787,500 RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Drysdale, Jamie $2,300,000$2,300,000 RD RFA - 3	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 1
Seeler, Nick $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 4	Ersson, Samuel $859,167$859,167 ($32,500$32K) G RFA - 1
Zamula, Yegor $775,000$775,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Attard, Ronnie $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 2
Mete, Victor $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 4

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marner, M.		Couturier, S.		Konecny, T.
	Tippett, O.		Drysdale, J.

Power Play 2
Atkinson, C.		Cates, N.		Farabee, J.
	Foerster, T.		Zamula, Y.

Penalty Kill 1
	Laughton, S.	Konecny, T.
	Seeler, N.	Ristolainen, R.

Penalty Kill 2
	Couturier, S.	Cates, N.
	Sanheim, T.	Attard, R.

Jan. 19 at 4:01 p.m.

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

Joined: Jun. 2018

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Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

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Jan. 19 at 4:04 p.m.

NYR1983

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Leaf fans will either take it and run or want double.. depends on who responds

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Jan. 19 at 4:06 p.m.

sobrien6187

Thread Starter

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: Random2152

Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

So what more would it take?

Jan. 19 at 4:12 p.m.

Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 9,345

Likes: 5,673

Quoting: sobrien6187

So what more would it take?

Its not even really a value issue (although your pick add-ons are insulting tbf). Its a fit issue.
The Leafs are trying to win right now and in the next 4 years. Very little in this package helps us do that - and certainly not to Marner's level

A Marner Deal starts with TK and goes up from there significantly.
Frankly I don't think Philly has the needed assets

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Jan. 19 at 4:15 p.m.

SomeonesOffended

FKA Bigtittielarper

Joined: Jun. 2020

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Marner ain’t waiving

Jan. 19 at 4:57 p.m.

MANX

Joined: Aug. 2020

Posts: 566

Likes: 159

Quoting: Random2152

Marner in a down year is a top 10 winger in the league.
You're not even close to offering a package that would align with Toronto's goals

Complete overpay for the Flyers. How a Flyers fan came up with this trade is mind boggling. Yes hes a top winger, but right there hes a winger not a center or a dman. Keep all of those assets and the Flyers are better off. Besides the fact that Marner is a NO SHOW in the playoffs on a deal that expires next year.

Jan. 19 at 4:59 p.m.

MANX

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Posts: 566

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Quoting: SomeonesOffended

Marner ain’t waiving

Good...we dont want him..........

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Jan. 19 at 5:11 p.m.

DH28Hockey

Joined: May 2019

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Marner would probably be TK + Hart as the return package

Jan. 19 at 5:39 p.m.

NickOT74

Kapri-sun

Joined: Sep. 2020

Posts: 192

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This trade makes no sense for the flyers, you can argue all you want about if that’s enough for marner, that’s not the problem

Problem is trading 3 roster players and a significant amount of draft capital for 1 player, this doesn’t push the flyers over the edge, it probably makes them worse, especially by trading York, while they are doing very good, a. They are still rebuilding and are not trading futures and b. A lot of that is because of the players in this deal

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Jan. 20 at 12:28 p.m.

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PhilEMyers

Joined: Jun. 2017

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Flyers pass easily

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