Hahaha. You just proved you are talking out of your ass. You made up stats and I proved it. Now you're mad because I showed that you're a liar.

Kuzmenko hasn't played with Pettersson 5v5 in over a month. They've only played about 20 games together 5v5 on the same line this season. Kuzmenko still has a 2.72 xG/60 away from Pettersson for half the season. Thank you for once again proving my point and demonstrating that you don't understand.

But please, keep saying he's lucky.

It literally says “on ice” in the picture. You can change that setting to “individual” if you like. Or “teammates” to see his production with and without certain players.

I can’t believe I’m having to explain this concept.

Besides I wonder why you didn’t pick Tyler Toffolis metrics of 3.02 on ice xgoals/60 5v5, and 58% Corsi. Hmmm

I think anyone would agree that Hughes >>> Toffoli.

Interesting that you didn't speak to Kuzmenko still having great metrics despite being away from Petey for half the season. Because you made stats up.

With Kuzmenko on and Pettersson off the Canucks get
48% Corsi
47% fenwick
45% of shots
46% of goals
48% of expected goals
None of those I would consider good numbers.


He has 2 goals and 3 points away from Pettersson in just under 200 minutes 5v5.

That is horrific
Also btw Kuzmenko has 4.8 xGoals 5v5.

10 minutes ago you didn't even know Kuzmenko has played away from Pettersson this season.

And again, you're making up stats. https://i.imgur.com/BQJMUhR.png

I don't know why you have such a vendetta against Kuzmenko. Just move on my guy.

I knew he had played away from Pettersson. I hadn’t taken the time yet to look at his numbers away from Pettersson, but I knew they wouldn’t be good. And they weren’t good.

When you're making up stats, they can be as good or as bad as you want.

You’re the one who didn’t understand what the numbers even meant.

Btw you forgot to include the games Pettersson didn’t play in.

If you go down into the settings and change to “include” it will give you the more accurate numbers. Which coincidentally match mine exactly.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=VAN&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2023-10-10&td=2024-04-18&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8483808&p2=8480012&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

Oh, of course, I forgot to include the 0 games that Pettersson hasn't played in! That's why the numbers are so skewed in my screenshot of NST vs. your plaintext numbers with no proof.

Stop shifting the goalposts and take the L.

I literally sent the website.

I found the discrepancy. Yours includes “score and venue adjustments”. Mine is the actual numbers.

Which is why yours has decimals in categories such as shots, goals, corsi, etc.

But again.

180 minutes without Pettersson. 3 points.

Hahaha, I literally took a screenshot with the 5v5 stats, what are you even talking about?

You're too stubborn to say that you're wrong, I don't know why it's so difficult for you to admit you were wrong, but here we are. It will be clear to anyone else reading this thread that you've made up statistics and facts because for some reason you've got a vendetta against Kuzmenko. It's not like changing the numbers affects anything, people can go to the website themselves and see the numbers firsthand.

I did go the website. And then LINKED the website. You numbers are adjusted. You know how I can guarantee that?

Because there are decimal numbers in the SF category. (Shots for). You cannot get 0.22 shots in real life. Which you’d understand if you actually understood the stats you spout. But you don’t.

5v5 score and venue adjusted

5v5 raw

My numbers are not adjusted. SS from the website right here: https://i.imgur.com/BQJMUhR.png

I proved your stats were wrong, and now you're trying to discredit mine. Smh.

It will be clear to anyone who reads the thread that you don’t even understand the statistics you spout when they read

“Kuzmenko has 19 xgoals” and then look and see that those are on ice numbers

Please explain to me how you think one obtains a decimal number in categories such as:

Shots
Corsi (shot attempts)
Fenwick (shot attempts)
Scoring chances
Goals

But I’m gonna assume you didn’t even know what the categories meant or put 1 ounce of brainpower into it.

I've never seen someone so mad about being proven wrong before. I've already shown I know what the categories mean, I've already disproven you.

Since you aren't debating in good faith, have no intention of improving your understanding, and have started to move towards insults, I'm going to call this off here and move on with my life. Good luck with your team.

Yeah sorry but he’s washed and you can’t have a 5M 3LD lmao

Lotta words to duck the question.

Leafs wouldnt do this because we need a defenseman so if we're going to trade him we need a more significant asset back

The asset you get back is 5 million dollars in cap space