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Created by: Reason
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 28, 2024
Published: Jan. 28, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
CGY
  1. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
2.
NSH
  1. Brzustewicz, Hunter [Reserve List]
  2. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
3.
MIN
  1. 2024 6th round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$80,071,667$850,000$0$3,428,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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-$1,125,000-$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2

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Jan. 28 at 11:46 a.m.
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Nashville isnt giving you their 1C for spare parts.
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Jan. 28 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: herzausstein
Nashville isnt giving you their 1C for spare parts.


Brzustewicz is easily a 1st rounder if last years draft was redone, 2nd round pick is also a good asset. If O'Reilly was younger I would 100% agree with you, but he's not and I think his 4 year contract holds significant risk for decline. I do think the trade could be a light though and another piece would probably need to be added.
Jan. 28 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Reason
Brzustewicz is easily a 1st rounder if last years draft was redone, 2nd round pick is also a good asset. If O'Reilly was younger I would 100% agree with you, but he's not and I think his 4 year contract holds significant risk for decline. I do think the trade could be a bit light though and another piece would probably need to be added.


Brzustewicz is having a great season, but I don't think he suddenly has the value of a 1st rounder now. If you really feel he does, would you swap him out of your proposal for Willander?

The picks and Brzustewicz are nice pieces, but they are quantity over quality ones, for what O'Reilly brings to the Preds. Plus Novak is hardly a throw in either.
Jan. 28 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
Brzustewicz is having a great season, but I don't think he suddenly has the value of a 1st rounder now. If you really feel he does, would you swap him out of your proposal for Willander?

The picks and Brzustewicz are nice pieces, but they are quantity over quality ones, for what O'Reilly brings to the Preds. Plus Novak is hardly a throw in either.


Not for O'Rielly I wouldn't. There are tiers of value within the first round and Brzustewicz wouldn't fall into the same tier as Willander, Willander is the more valuable piece.

I think both your guys assessments are fair though, in the sense that the value is on the light side for the Preds.
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Jan. 28 at 12:56 p.m.
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Canucks are not accepting the second deal.
It’s a waste and we don’t need O’Reilly.
It would make sense if Canucks trade Hunter and a couple of draft picks to NSH in exchange for Tomas Novak.
Moving on.
Jan. 28 at 1:00 p.m.
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Canucks are not accepting the second deal.
It’s a waste and we don’t need O’Reilly.
It would make sense if Canucks trade Hunter and a couple of draft picks to NSH in exchange for Tomas Novak.
Moving on.


Ok, Mr Rutherford.
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Jan. 28 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Reason
Not for O'Rielly I wouldn't. There are tiers of value within the first round and Brzustewicz wouldn't fall into the same tier as Willander, Willander is the more valuable piece.

I think both your guys assessments are fair though, in the sense that the value is on the light side for the Preds.


Oh yeah, there are definitely tiers within the 1st. With you agreeing that your original offer was light, I was curious how you saw the gap between the two prospects is all.

Willander is the tier of prospect that would be necessary to get Trotz to consider an O'Reilly trade. It helps that an RD prospect would fit an organizational need too. A wing prospect equivalent to him probably gets a quick "no thank you" from NSH.
Jan. 28 at 3:17 p.m.
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Brzustewicz is easily a 1st rounder if last years draft was redone, 2nd round pick is also a good asset. If O'Reilly was younger I would 100% agree with you, but he's not and I think his 4 year contract holds significant risk for decline. I do think the trade could be a light though and another piece would probably need to be added.


The prospect is the only thing in the deal that makes sense for Nashville. The 2nd is in 2025. The deal strips Nashville of their only productive center. We would be entering full tear down mode which likely would makes Kuzmenko's numbers drop more sense he'd now be getting centered by one of Colton Sissons, Cody Glass, Michael McCarron, or Jusso Parssinen.... i mean beyond laughable NHL level center depth. Glass has 2 points over half way through the season and cant stay in the lineup and Parssinen got sent to Milwaukee because the coach thinks he is best served gettinf consistent center time there instead of being bounced around the lineup at the NHL level.

So the trade turns into a really solid prospect, a full scale rebuild, a boat anchor contract, 2024 3rd, and a 2025 2nd. It just isnt worth the the complete chaos it would cause for a singular defensive prospect
 
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