That Pens trade is lopsided for Vancouver since they're giving up Petey for only 2 years for Crosby and 1 year for a rental winger

4 years of Crosby for a lifetime of Elias Pettersson, Crosby says No.

Zadorov+4th round pick for Frank Vatrano, That joke of an offer is DOA on Pat Verbeeks desk.

Are you joking?

Frankie Vatrano is signed for another season, leads the Ducks in most offensive categories, and even on your offensively gifted team, would be fourth in scoring among forwards (trailing only Miller, Pettersson and Boeser and well ahead of Garland, Joshua and Mikheyev); his trade value is probably a first plus and from your lineup above, you think that he's good enough to play in your top 6. Zadorov is a third-pairing UFA defenseman with a higher cap hit than Vatrano and you got him for a third and a fifth.

I'm shocked that you're so unfamiliar with a Pacific Division rival.

The old gunslinger Jimmy Rutherford loves making trades.

But this is Looney Tunes! 🤣

That's all folks! 😁

There's no guaranteed lifetime of Pettersson for any team, he's an RFA with the potential to walk as a UFA in 2025.

As far as the Vatrano deal goes (seems like the description doesn't show with the rosters any more), I had noted in there, happy to tweak/add where appropriate. I'm not the most tuned in to some of the tradeoffs in value, but I do feel like there should be some pushback on your slamming of my trade. Zadorov is a lot more than a 3rd pair D. D has more value than forwards. Size isn't coachable. Canucks can throw in a player from Abbotsford if required.

Frank Vatrano is on pace for around 51 points and has another year left, he's not getting moved for a pending UFA that the Ducks don't need and a 4th round pick. Detroit has strong interest in Vatrano and blow away that offer.

Vancouver acquired him for a 3rd and a 5th, and you are adding a 4th to that after having used most of his remaining contract.

So why would the Ducks ship out their leading scorer for a 3rd, a 4th, and a 5th? A leading scorer who would be top 5 on the Canucks were he on the roster? Who is signed to the most team friendly deal outside of an ELC for anyone in the league with as many goals as him this season?

You want Vatrano, break out Jeannot picks.

Penguins are not trading Guentzel & Crosby.
ANA decline - Vatrano is not getting traded.

Why not? If the Pens aren't going to make the playoffs this season, they sure aren't guaranteed to do so in the near future. Do you really think that if the Pens get to the decision point of moving Guentzel, they wouldn't move anyone else? Especially if they can restock with someone like Petey? Canucks are giving away a huge asset in Pettersson. Seems reasonable that the Pens would be willing to move on from Crosby. Feels like you're mixing sentimentality with business. As a lifelong Liverpool supporter, I can guarantee that the Fenway Group don't have that problem.



Seems that common intel out there is that Vetrano is on the market for the right price. I guess not the price I offered, but there is a strong likelihood he gets moved. If adding futures, is required, I'm sure the Canucks would be willing to do so. He's a guy who's been on the Canuck's radar for a while. Point being, it's likely that Vatrano is getting traded.

Maybe a Stanley Cup contending team might have interest in Vatrano.

Uhh huh. That indeed is the point.

Then you guys gotta PAY