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Guentzel doesnt want to be here

Created by: gpmack95
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2024
Published: Jan. 31, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Jake Guentzel rejected a 6 x $8.5M AVV offer from Pittsburgh per Frank S
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Borgen, William
  2. Kartye, Tye
  3. Tolvanen, Eeli
  4. 2024 1st round pick (SEA)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Guentzel, Jake
  2. Ruhwedel, Chad
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Guentzel signs 8 x $8.85M AVV extension with SEA
2.
PIT
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
CGY
  1. Graves, Ryan ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. 2024 7th round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
NJD
  1. Nedeljkovic, Alex
4.
PIT
  1. Saad, Brandon
STL
  1. Smith, Reilly ($1,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
STL saves $500,000 and term

Can flip Smith 50% retained ($2M AVV) for more picks and assets next year at draft or deadline
5.
PIT
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
LAK
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
LAK flip picks for immediate roster help
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$82,107,676$0$270,000$1,392,324
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Tolvanen, Eeli
$1,450,000$1,450,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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Rust, Bryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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O'Connor, Drew
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Malkin, Evgeni
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Kaliyev, Arthur
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Saad, Brandon
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Eller, Lars
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
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Rakell, Rickard
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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Kartye, Tye
$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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Acciari, Noel
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Nieto, Matt
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Bahl, Kevin
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Letang, Kris
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Jarry, Tristan
$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Karlsson, Erik
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Vanecek, Vitek
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Borgen, William
$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Harkins, Jansen
$850,000$850,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Ludvig, John
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Carter, Jeff
$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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White, Colin
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 31 at 10:25 a.m.
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Ichbinian
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source for the Seravalli claim?
Jan. 31 at 10:27 a.m.
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MoSeider53
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Seattle currently has the 11th worst record in the NHL, Therefore they're not currently buyers and probably won't be buyers. So the Jake Guentzel trade isn't happening. Plus if he wasn't going to accept that deal with Pittsburgh then he's not taking it in Seattle.
Jan. 31 at 10:29 a.m.
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Armstrongs_burner
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blues probably accept
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Jan. 31 at 10:30 a.m.
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What does Jakey want to get paid? 10+ mil?

Also Blues would hopefully take that. Swapping the players as is would already be something that is plausible, but if the Pens retain 1M I would hope the Blues take that.
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Jan. 31 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Ichbinian
source for the Seravalli claim?


https://www.penguinslatest.com/nhl-team/pittsburgh-penguins/Major-Guentzel-rejected-a-massive-contract-extension-from-the-Pens-according-to-insider
Jan. 31 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Seattle currently has the 11th worst record in the NHL, Therefore they're not currently buyers and probably won't be buyers. So the Jake Guentzel trade isn't happening. Plus if he wasn't going to accept that deal with Pittsburgh then he's not taking it in Seattle.


He doesn't want to be part of rebuild -- SEA has Beniers + Wright + more coming up
Jan. 31 at 10:43 a.m.
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Quoting: gpmack95
He doesn't want to be part of rebuild -- SEA has Beniers + Wright + more coming up


The article has nothing about him not wanting to be here, only says that he allegedly got offered 6x8.5m and rejected it.
Jan. 31 at 10:43 a.m.
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Quoting: DNP1932
The article has nothing about him not wanting to be here, only says that he allegedly got offered 6x8.5m and rejected it.


Other insiders in PIT have mentioned that like Yohe Madden that that is the sense
Jan. 31 at 10:44 a.m.
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STL says f off w this saad for smith bs
Jan. 31 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: gpmack95
Other insiders in PIT have mentioned that like Yohe Madden that that is the sense


I’ve also seen that he loves it in Pittsburgh, so imo just wait and see what happens, they truly can’t lose him if they wanna compete, so i doubt he gets moved and id be surprised if he doesn’t resign but like i said just wait and see i guess,
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Jan. 31 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: MidnightRyder
STL says f off w this saad for smith bs


No we don’t
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Jan. 31 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: MidnightRyder
STL says f off w this saad for smith bs


Blues would absolutely think about this, especially if the Pens retain anything on Smith. Smith is not a bad player and with retention would have less term and cap hit than Saad.

Saad is also a very expendable part of the roster.
 
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