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Potential Jake trade destinations - redo

Created by: Imagine874859

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2024

Published: Feb. 1, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I posted an ACGM similar to this one yesterday. This is basically the same except I removed the teams that dont fit so far. Trying to get more answers on that. Also, after seeing the Lindholm trade I think we can expect a bigger return for Jake than weve been thinking. Not to mention hes a better player than Lindholm.

To be quite honest, I think we should look into signing Jake to a contract before we trade him, or let him agree to a contract with the team hes being traded to. That would up his value. A sign a trade basically. Below are teams that I think could be interested in Jake if he were to be put on the market. I went ahead and made some mock offers to show what'd i'd personally want, but please leave a comment explaining if the fit doesn't make sense and provide what could be on the table if he were to be a fit. Some of these might be lopsided in value so other pieces can be added to make it more even. These are just the base of the trade. Retention can also be on the table. I based these off of the Lindholm trade.

Below I'm gonna mark off what teams dont fit for Guentzel (just for myself so I know for future Guentzel trade ideas):
NSH - X

Trades

1.

PIT

Bertucci, Tristan [Reserve List]
Bourque, Mavrik
Faksa, Radek
2024 1st round pick (DAL)
2026 4th round pick (DAL)

DAL

Guentzel, Jake

Additional Details:

Either signs an extention before he gets traded or after, but he has to agree.

2.

PIT

Foegele, Warren
Holloway, Dylan
Stonehouse, Brady
2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2025 4th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

3.

PIT

Fink, Aiden [Reserve List]
Molendyk, Tanner
Trenin, Yakov
2024 4th round pick (NSH)
2025 1st round pick (TBL)

NSH

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

4.

PIT

Goodrow, Barclay
Miller, K'Andre
Roobroeck, Dylan [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (NYR)
2025 4th round pick (DAL)

NYR

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

5.

PIT

Goyette, David
Price, Caden [Reserve List]
Tolvanen, Eeli
2024 1st round pick (SEA)
2025 4th round pick (SEA)

SEA

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

6.

PIT

Chadwick, Noah
Järnkrok, Calle
Minten, Fraser
2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2026 4th round pick (TOR)

TOR

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

7.

PIT

Garland, Conor
Kudryavtsev, Kirill
Lekkerimäki, Jonathan
2024 4th round pick (NJD)
2025 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

8.

PIT

Brisson, Brendan
Hemmerling, Ben
Roy, Nicolas
2024 1st round pick (VGK)
2026 4th round pick (VGK)

VGK

Jake Guentzel

Either signs and extention before he gets traded or afte, but he has to agree.

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
39	$83,500,000	$112,172,176	$0	$1,205,000	-$28,672,176

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1
Harkins, Jansen $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	White, Colin $775,000$775,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Bourque, Mavrik $894,167$894,167 C RFA - 2	Stonehouse, Brady $845,000$845,000 RW RFA - 3
Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($650,000$650K) LW, C RFA - 1	Faksa, Radek $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Trenin, Yakov $1,700,000$1,700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Lekkerimäki, Jonathan $950,000$950,000 ($475,000$475K) RW, C RFA - 3
Tolvanen, Eeli $1,450,000$1,450,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Goyette, David $923,333$923,333 ($80,000$80K) C RFA - 3	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
	Minten, Fraser $845,833$845,833 C, LW RFA - 3	Hemmerling, Ben $844,167$844,167 RW RFA - 3
	Roy, Nicolas $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW UFA - 4
	Brisson, Brendan $925,000$925,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Molendyk, Tanner $950,000$950,000 LD RFA - 3
Miller, K'Andre $3,872,000$3,872,000 LD RFA - 2
Chadwick, Noah $851,667$851,667 LD RFA - 3
Kudryavtsev, Kirill $850,000$850,000 LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
		Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2

Feb. 1 at 9:29 a.m.

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What would you see fitting as a proposal to Carolina, what would you look for in return?

Feb. 1 at 9:30 a.m.

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Rangers can’t afford to extend Jake

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Feb. 1 at 9:35 a.m.

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Quoting: Pevevey

What would you see fitting as a proposal to Carolina, what would you look for in return?

I've been told by Carolina fans that he isnt really a fit. But since you asked...

2024 1st
Teravainen
Nadeau
Nikishin

Something along those lines. Similar to the Lindholm trade.

Feb. 1 at 9:42 a.m.

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For Guentzel???
Is Crosby coming too??
Guentzel is not a line 1 winger away from Crosby.
180 lbs maybe, not fast/not slow, no physical game, net front he's a mouse. Nothing special for a shot, average stick skills.

I'm confused.... why would ANY TEAM trade this much for so little??

Feb. 1 at 9:45 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

For Guentzel???
Is Crosby coming too??
Guentzel is not a line 1 winger away from Crosby.
180 lbs maybe, not fast/not slow, no physical game, net front he's a mouse. Nothing special for a shot, average stick skills.

I'm confused.... why would ANY TEAM trade this much for so little??

Lmao excuse me? How much have you been smoking? He's better than Lindholm for sure and look at the return he brought. Nothing special for a shot? consistent 40+ goal seasons say otherwise. Net front he's a mouse? That where he gets most of his PPG.

Feb. 1 at 9:46 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

I've been told by Carolina fans that he isnt really a fit. But since you asked...

2024 1st
Teravainen
Nadeau
Nikishin

Something along those lines. Similar to the Lindholm trade.

Nah Lindholm is a top 6 centremen
Guentzel is a star dependant winger.

Imo Guentzel is not worth any of the trades above, UNLESS Crosby's coattails are in the deal.

Feb. 1 at 9:47 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

Nah Lindholm is a top 6 centremen
Guentzel is a star dependant winger.

Imo Guentzel is not worth any of the trades above, UNLESS Crosby's coattails are in the deal.

Guentzel is for sure a top line winger on most teams. Over ppg player

Feb. 1 at 9:47 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

Lmao excuse me? How much have you been smoking? He's better than Lindholm for sure and look at the return he brought. Nothing special for a shot? consistent 40+ goal seasons say otherwise. Net front he's a mouse? That where he gets most of his PPG.

Thank Ctosby next time you see him, 25 of those 40 are directly linked to Crosby.
Guentzel is nothing special AT ALL.

Feb. 1 at 9:48 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

Thank Ctosby next time you see him, 25 of those 40 are directly linked to Crosby.
Guentzel is nothing special AT ALL.

Could say the same for all of the Rangers wingers then couldnt I

Feb. 1 at 9:48 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

Guentzel is for sure a top line winger on most teams. Over ppg player

Yeah next to the generational Crosby.... it's not Guentzel carrying that line.....lol

Feb. 1 at 9:48 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

For Guentzel???
Is Crosby coming too??
Guentzel is not a line 1 winger away from Crosby.
180 lbs maybe, not fast/not slow, no physical game, net front he's a mouse. Nothing special for a shot, average stick skills.

I'm confused.... why would ANY TEAM trade this much for so little??

You realize he drives the offense and has shown it even without Crosby as his center? He drives to the net. He is great at puck deflections in and around the net. He also has a great shot. He is an All-star player.

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Feb. 1 at 9:49 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

Could say the same for all of the Rangers wingers then couldnt I

If you like... but it doesn't change Guentzel being overrated.

That and you'd be dead wrong about Panarin.... but I'm not here to teach.
No thx

Feb. 1 at 9:50 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

Yeah next to the generational Crosby.... it's not Guentzel carrying that line.....lol

I wasn't suprised you were a Rangers fan when I looked.

Feb. 1 at 9:50 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

If you like... but it doesn't change Guentzel being overrated.

That and you'd be dead wrong about Panarin.... but I'm not here to teach.
No thx

He's overrated because he pays with Crosby? I guess that makes Leon Draisaitl overrated too eh?

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Feb. 1 at 9:50 a.m.

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Quoting: nutrition1223

You realize he drives the offense and has shown it even without Crosby as his center? He drives to the net. He is great at puck deflections in and around the net. He also has a great shot. He is an All-star player.

So long as 87 is the Centremen.... lots of players would put up his #s and better if they got ride shotgun to Crosby.
C'mon... you can't be this dense.

Feb. 1 at 9:51 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

He's overrated because he pays with Crosby? I guess that makes Leon Draisaitl overrated too eh?

No how? You're a very confused boy eh??

Feb. 1 at 9:53 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

If you like... but it doesn't change Guentzel being overrated.

That and you'd be dead wrong about Panarin.... but I'm not here to teach.
No thx

You're right you're not here to teach, you're here to learn lol

Feb. 1 at 9:54 a.m.

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Lol.... like we would have ever heard of Jake Guentzel if he had come up in Philly , or Ottawa, Winnipeg, Vancouver...etc

You would not have ever heard of Jake Guentzel if he did not play on Sidney Crosby's line. PERIOD.
LOL....jakie guentzel lol.....

Feb. 1 at 9:54 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

No how? You're a very confused boy eh??

The only defense you have made is "Oh he plays with Sid that makes him overrated". That makes no sense. Just because someone plays with a star player like Crosby doesn't make them overrated. Some of them might, but not Jake.

Feb. 1 at 9:56 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

Lol.... like we would have ever heard of Jake Guentzel if he had come up in Philly , or Ottawa, Winnipeg, Vancouver...etc

You would not have ever heard of Jake Guentzel if he did not play on Sidney Crosby's line. PERIOD.
LOL....jakie guentzel lol.....

Right and while you diss Jake, you're defending Sid lol. I guess we can confirm that if Laffy was on Pittsburgh he'd be a much better player huh. Same goes for Kakko. Sounds to me like you're a little jealous that those 2 won't become as good as Jake is.

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Feb. 1 at 9:56 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

I've been told by Carolina fans that he isnt really a fit. But since you asked...

2024 1st
Teravainen
Nadeau
Nikishin

Something along those lines. Similar to the Lindholm trade.

Go fish!!!
All that for little bity Jakie guentzel..!!!
Not a chance.....lol
But have fun daydreaming.

Feb. 1 at 9:57 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

The only defense you have made is "Oh he plays with Sid that makes him overrated". That makes no sense. Just because someone plays with a star player like Crosby doesn't make them overrated. Some of them might, but not Jake.

Hahahaha

Feb. 1 at 9:57 a.m.

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Quoting: Pevevey

What would you see fitting as a proposal to Carolina, what would you look for in return?

Id prefer Necas + Nikishin + 1st with Guentzel extension

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Feb. 1 at 9:57 a.m.

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Quoting: xxToothxx

So long as 87 is the Centremen.... lots of players would put up his #s and better if they got ride shotgun to Crosby.
C'mon... you can't be this dense.

Jake Guentzel has 16 goals, 24 assists (40 Points) and a plus-minus of +9 in 38 games without Crosby.... of those games without Crosby he was centered by Evan Rodrigues.....

Plus as brought up by someone above he would probably play on the 1st line with another solid Center. It's not like people are paying a ransom for a player to put him on the 4th line with scrub players.

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Feb. 1 at 9:58 a.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

The only defense you have made is "Oh he plays with Sid that makes him overrated". That makes no sense. Just because someone plays with a star player like Crosby doesn't make them overrated. Some of them might, but not Jake.

Must mean Leon is overrated because he is playing with McDavid

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