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Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2024
Published: Feb. 2, 2024
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  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Stillman, Chase
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
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22$83,500,000$70,786,666$0$1,077,500$12,713,334
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$762,500$762,500
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$925,000$925,000
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Feb. 2 at 11:33 a.m.
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Holtz not on the market.

1st+Stillman for Hanifin sure tho
Feb. 2 at 11:43 a.m.
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They wouldn’t move Holtz for two 34 year olds. I personally like a Tanev move if it came with a 2 year extension at 4m per, but I think Fitz like Hanifin more.

Tanev Offer: Bahl, Clarke, 2024 3rd
Hanifin Offer: Bahl, 2024 1st
Feb. 2 at 12:08 p.m.
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Sure, if you change Tanev to Hanifin
Feb. 2 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Sure, if you change Tanev to Hanifin


Even then I’d pass. Stillman+1st for Hanifin, sure.

Holtz for unretained Markstrom. Not a chance in hell
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Feb. 2 at 12:28 p.m.
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Even then I’d pass. Stillman+1st for Hanifin, sure.

Holtz for unretained Markstrom. Not a chance in hell


I'd like to see at least a million retained
Feb. 2 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Shaners79
I'd like to see at least a million retained


To move a 1st, 1 mill. To move holtz, gonna need the full 50%
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Feb. 2 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
To move a 1st, 1 mill. To move holtz, gonna need the full 50%


Quoting: dgibb10
To move a 1st, 1 mill. To move holtz, gonna need the full 50%


That or take Vanecek
Feb. 2 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Shaners79
That or take Vanecek


Nah Vanacek I’d be dumping on his own regardless for a 3rd.

Wouldn’t let dumping him to Calgary specifically replace retention
Feb. 2 at 4:45 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Even then I’d pass. Stillman+1st for Hanifin, sure.

Holtz for unretained Markstrom. Not a chance in hell


Why not? You'd have to move VV but you get him for 3 playoff runs. He probably helps the team more than Holtz in those 3 years, right? he only has 1 negative GSAx season in the last 5 (20-21) and is particularly strong at high-danger chances (which we allow on a per-shot basis more than most teams iirc) and weak against low-danger chances (which we do a good job of limiting)
Feb. 2 at 4:53 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Why not? You'd have to move VV but you get him for 3 playoff runs. He probably helps the team more than Holtz in those 3 years, right? he only has 1 negative GSAx season in the last 5 (20-21) and is particularly strong at high-danger chances (which we allow on a per-shot basis more than most teams iirc) and weak against low-danger chances (which we do a good job of limiting)


Age 34 to 36 goaltenders have a BAD track record. It’s very rare that they’re even competent starters throughout the run, let alone quality goaltending that can win you the cup.

This year going forward I expect him to play like a borderline top 10 goalie.

After that it’s a crapshoot if he’s even good at all.

My approximate valuations:

This year: 8 mill
Next year: 4.5 mill
2 years from now: 3.5 mill

Total value: 16 million. At 18 mill in salary tbh I wouldn’t pay much at all for him.

My estimations of holtz

This year: 3 million
Next year: 5 million
2 years from now: 6 mill
6.5 mill
7 mill
Total value: 27.5
Assume we get him on a 3.5x3 bridge contract, that’s a total cost of 12.5 million.

Even if I’m way off on my estimations there’s a MASSIVE gap in value.

In order for trading Holtz for Markstrom to be a good idea, holtz would have to not improve at all going forward, and Markstrom would have to maintain a historically unprecedented level of play from age 34-36.
 
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