If we are giving up two 1sts it should be for another RHD.

Anaheim declines, Pick that're 2-3 drafts away aren't going to cut it. And sorry those players hold zero value to them.

Hard pass, for all sorts of reasons.

First, the Canucks have a lot to prove before they can be as confident as Tampa was that their future 1sts will be very late.

Second, Hagel was like 23 years old when he got traded.. Vatrano is 29. Hagel was a young player still developing while Vatrano is about to hit 30, those aren't comparable.

Third, with 50% retention Vatrano would come on a 2x1.825 deal. Hagel had a 3x1.5 contract, and he was STILL an RFA at the end of it. Nowhere near the same.

Fourth, while their trade year outputs are similar (37in55 for Hagel, 36in50 for Vatrano), one was 23 and developing, the other is having a career year at 29 after a previous high of 41 pts in 81 games.

two first and a 2nd dont cut it for a 30 year old 20 goal scorer?

the goal of this trade is to add one more shoot first player to the top 6. canucks get 2 playoff runs with vatrano this way and dont give up any of their important prospects. imo its an overpay but its still a win

Right 2 1st that're 2 and 3 drafts away like i said, Got news for you? Any team that trades for Vatrano will give up their 2024 1st round picks not ones way up the road.

I understand the goal, but a price like that is prohibitive.

This is a guy who's on pace for 59 points, after being a ~35 average his whole career. Not some superstar game breaker.

Doesn't move the needle enough for two 1sts.

2 future firsts is worth more than one late first in this years draft

Yeah no they're not, Considering that all of the picks will be in the same range of 22-32 oa

I think you could take out the second personally. Two future firsts is quite a bit.
Aman and those two firsts should be sufficient. Woo doesn't do much for them.

just included woo so that the contracts are equal