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Created by: fangm

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 13, 2024

Published: Feb. 13, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

TOR

Kakko, Kaapo
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)

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With rumours that:
1. NYR have been listening on Kakko
2. NYR owner won't let them trade their 1st

This deal makes loads of sense. The 1st from Toronto allows them to pickup a 1RW like Tarasenko or to go after Guentzel if Pit trades him. Then Wheeler can drop down to the 3rd line in Kakko's spot.

TOR

Hakanpää, Jani
2024 1st round pick (DAL)

DAL

Liljegren, Timothy

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Similar to the Sandin trade last year.

TOR

Andersson, Rasmus ($2,250,000 retained)

CGY

Abruzzese, Nick
Niemelä, Topi
2024 1st round pick (DAL)
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

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This is the most I can find in a trade for a D. Yes there is retention and other factors but its more than Lindholm, Jones or anyone else has been traded for. Hard to see Calgary turning this down.

They get two 1sts, 2nd, a RHD who likely steps into their lineup next year and a forward prospect who light up the NCAA playing with Coronato so they have a chance to play together again.

All for a player who could walk before they are even competitive. I feel like Flames fans don't consider enough the possibility that this team doesn't compete for the next 1/2 years and suddenly Andersson is a pending UFA who might want to go to a playoff team and you got two years of worse picks then half this package for him in future.

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Ryan Reaves: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$83,256,450	$0	$0	$243,550

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Kakko, Kaapo $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW RFA - 1
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
		McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Andersson, Rasmus $2,300,000$2,300,000 RD UFA - 3	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Hakanpää, Jani $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Feb. 13 at 11:09 p.m.

boltsfan71

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dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

Feb. 13 at 11:20 p.m.

KingofRnR

TrevorA

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Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

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Feb. 13 at 11:29 p.m.

GM_SZK

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Why would Dallas do that? You ref Washington but how is that a comp? Take the 1st out and I guess you could make a case, maybe…hmm…not even imo.

Feb. 13 at 11:36 p.m.

Rajvinder

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Quoting: GM_SZK

Why would Dallas do that? You ref Washington but how is that a comp? Take the 1st out and I guess you could make a case, maybe…hmm…not even imo.

How is it not a comp? Sandin went for a 1st and Gustafson. Liligren who is likely worth a little more is being traded for essentially the same package.

Feb. 13 at 11:36 p.m.

Rajvinder

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

For that package you get fired for turning it down.

Feb. 13 at 11:36 p.m.

Rajvinder

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Quoting: boltsfan71

dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

Not unprecedented. Chicago did it on McCabe last year. Similar amount for 3 years.

Feb. 13 at 11:37 p.m.

Rajvinder

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Quoting: boltsfan71

dont think they wanna retain for 3 years either

In terms of real money it's actually almost identical to McCabe since his contract is back loaded.

Feb. 13 at 11:43 p.m.

GM_SZK

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Quoting: Rajvinder

How is it not a comp? Sandin went for a 1st and Gustafson. Liligren who is likely worth a little more is being traded for essentially the same package.

Why would Dallas give a big D who has played in the playoffs PLUS a first for a guy who disappears right about now, or sooner?

The deal makes no sense for Dallas, even without the 1st?

Washington was gonzo when they made that deal…

Feb. 13 at 11:44 p.m.

KingofRnR

TrevorA

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Quoting: Rajvinder

For that package you get fired for turning it down.

You know this all for pretend, right!?

Feb. 13 at 11:52 p.m.

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boltsfan71

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Quoting: Rajvinder

In terms of real money it's actually almost identical to McCabe since his contract is back loaded.

different caliber of player

Feb. 14 at 12:11 a.m.

#11

Rajvinder

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Quoting: GM_SZK

Liligren is worth a 1st and 3rd he's a #3 for the next 7 years for a team.

If you want to argue Hakanpaa's value that's fine or if you want to argue the fit with Dallas you can but Lili's value isn't really debatable. People were having these arguments a year ago and the Sandin trade shows that this is clearly the value of a young 2nd pairing D.

Feb. 14 at 12:12 a.m.

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Rajvinder

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Quoting: boltsfan71

different caliber of player

Fair enough but I don't think any team offers this much without the retention.

Depending on who you ask it's 3-4 firsts worth of value.

Feb. 14 at 12:17 a.m.

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GM_SZK

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Disagree, and I’m sure as does Dallas and most if not every other team…especially this time of year.

And what does worth mean? How does Liljegren help Dallas?

Answer a question?

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Feb. 14 at 12:17 a.m.

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boltsfan71

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Fair enough but I don't think any team offers this much without the retention.

Depending on who you ask it's 3-4 firsts worth of value.

yea I dont mind the value but its gonna be hard to get that many years of retention on a guy that not really available

Feb. 14 at 1:04 a.m.

#15

MoxNix

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Flames Decline. Andersson isn’t available

Even if he was available (you're right he isn't) Calgary wouldn't retain salary.

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Feb. 14 at 1:10 a.m.

#16

MoxNix

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Quoting: Rajvinder

Not unprecedented. Chicago did it on McCabe last year. Similar amount for 3 years.

Calgary has retained salary exactly once. A deadline deal with 50% retention on David Rittich's expiring contract which had an AAV of just 2.75 mil.

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Feb. 14 at 7:46 a.m.

#17

Rags21

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Easy pass for rangers, they don’t need picks

You guys need to stop listening to whatever Dreger says lol he’s wrong

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