SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Rating All Markstrom Offers since Feb 8

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2024
Published: Feb. 22, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Looking at the many offers from Calgary ACGMs that include Markstrom since Feb 8th. There have been just over 100 of them.

I put them into a few categories:

1. NJD would likely accept
2. NJD would probably lean towards accepting
3. Close Call
4. NJD would probably lean towards declining
5. NJD would likely decline

I am sure some NJD fans (and maybe some CGY fans) will disagree with my views, and that's cool. Let me know what you think....


------

NJD likely says "Yes" if offered

ACGM #4888149: 2024 5th, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4910421: Holtz, Smith, 2025 2nd, 2024 5th (COL)…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4901393: Holtz, Bahl, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4881162: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), Hanifin
ACGM #4878071: Leddy, Málek , Nosek, 2024 3rd, 2024 5th, 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4897925: Clarke, Schmid, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4895262: Smith, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd, 2024 7th…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4903036: Bahl, Smith, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4891523: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.25m)

------

NJD maybe leans "Yes" if offered

ACGM #4887909: 2024 1st, 2025 3rd, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4878555: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m), Hanifin
ACGM #4893107: Holtz, Vanecek, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4881580: Casey , 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4906475: Leddy, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4908178: Stillman, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $3m)
ACGM #4902119: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4904262: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4907437: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4880087: Clarke, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2026 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4884382: Clarke, Schmid, Bastian, Hämeenaho, 1st, 3rd…for…Markstrom ($3m), Hanifin ($2.475m), 5th

------

Close Call

ACGM #4905911: Holtz…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4900095: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $3.5m)
ACGM #4885073: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 5th (COL), 2025 6th…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4881694: Holtz, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4885054: Holtz, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4894206: Holtz, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Duehr
ACGM #4896919: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4897596: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4900073: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4905349: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4893638: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4906935: Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4907079: Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4883008: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5.1m)
ACGM #4907196: Clarke, Vukojevic, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2025 5th (NJD)
ACGM #4882820: Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4905433: Bahl, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m), Gilbert

------

NJD Probably Leans Against (for pieces included)

ACGM #4885744: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $3m), 2024 2nd
ACGM #4891647: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Tanev
ACGM #4898124: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, Bahl, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Hanifin
ACGM #4893002: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), 2024 4th (NJD)
ACGM #4908520: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4890068: Holtz, Vanecek, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4898234: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4900093: Holtz, Hämeenaho, Schmid, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4894940: Holtz, Stillman, Vanecek, 2025 2nd, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4892652: Holtz, Källgren, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4889817: Holtz, Clarke, Vanecek, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4905484: Holtz, Barabosha, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4901109: Casey, Vanecek, 2025 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Rooney

------

NJD Probably Leans Against (for $$)

ACGM #4892536: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4893204: Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4905351: Holtz, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4898219: Holtz, Schmid, Miller, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4882283: Holtz, Schmid, Bastian, Clarke, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom ($6m), Hanifin ($2.475m)
ACGM #4908864: Schmid, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Vladar
ACGM #4889675: Edwards, Källgren, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4899372: Hämeenaho, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 5th (COL), 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)

------

NJD likely says No

ACGM #4883256: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4893312: Mercer, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m), 2025 2nd, Duehr
ACGM #4894808: Mercer, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $3m), Grzelcyk
ACGM #4875528: Mercer, Nemec, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin (at $2.5m), Tanev, Duehr
ACGM #4898547: Mercer, Misyul, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $3m), Tanev
ACGM #4875867: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 7th (NSH), 2025 4th…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902903: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 3rd, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $5m)
ACGM #4885313: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4889122: Mercer, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4886408: Mercer, Bahl, Nosek, 2024 1st, 2026 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin
ACGM #4908956: Mercer, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Rooney, 2024 3rd
ACGM #4862450: Mercer, Casey, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin, Kerins, Rory
ACGM #4886537: Mercer, Clarke, Hämeenaho , Källgren, 2024 1st, 2024 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4877032: Mercer…for…Markstrom (at $6m), MEP, Oesterle, 2024 4th
ACGM #4898851: Nemec, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Andersson
ACGM #4880557: Casey, Meier, Vanecek…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4900782: Casey, Vanecek, 2025 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4895948: Casey, Schmid, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4900693: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Squires , Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom ($4.5m), Tanev
ACGM #4893145: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom ($4m), Hanifin
ACGM #4910164: Holtz, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, Bastian, 1st, 1st…for…Markstrom ($4m), Andersson
ACGM #4893299: Holtz, Bahl, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4879487: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902251: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4902365: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4904752: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4908761: Holtz, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4908599: Holtz, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4909345: Holtz, Kallgren, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4909292: Holtz, Schmid, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2024 2nd
ACGM #4905633: Holtz, Källgren, Stillman, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Tanev
ACGM #4907469: Holtz, Casey, Siegenthaler, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m), Hanifin (at $2.95m)
ACGM #4896757: Holtz, Casey, Vanecek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4m)
ACGM #4891362: Holtz, Casey, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, 2026 3rd…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin
ACGM #4890943: Holtz, Casey, Nosek, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m)
ACGM #4897958: Holtz, Casey, Bahl, Lazar, Smith, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $4.5m)
ACGM #4891697: Holtz, Casey, Daws, 2024 1st, 2026 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), Hanifin (at $2.475m)
ACGM #4891919: Holtz, Vanecek, Vilén, 2024 1st…for…Markstrom (at $6m), 2024 4th (NJD)
ACGM #4879202: Hämeenaho, Karpovich, Siegs, Squires, Vanecek, 1st, 1st…for…Markstrom ($5m), Hanifin ($2.475m), Duehr
Trades
NJD
  1. Markström, Jacob ($1,800,000 retained)
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
  3. 2025 4th round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the COL
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NSH
2025
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
2026
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the NJD
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$74,073,333$422,500$4,632,500$9,426,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,200,000$4,200,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$812,500$812,500 ($0$0$0$0)
G
RFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Feb. 22 at 11:30 a.m.
#1
I Love J Boqvist
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2023
Posts: 11,638
Likes: 3,060
I enjoy how the list of absolutely ridiculous proposals is triple the size. But hey you start off with the ridiculous ones and then just the normal fleeces don’t look as bad
Feb. 22 at 11:36 a.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2019
Posts: 7,987
Likes: 4,209
Man bravo to you! This is some dedication for us to look at. It must of taken a while to get all that information, then post them in those categories.

Some of them are a little light, some are WAY too much, but I believe there are a decent amount of them that are good for both sides, although, I would NOT trade Casey at all for Markstrom if I was New Jersey, so it’s good to see there is only a couple of him in these.
Feb. 22 at 11:46 a.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 39,867
Likes: 18,263
Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Man bravo to you! This is some dedication for us to look at. It must of taken a while to get all that information, then post them in those categories.

Some of them are a little light, some are WAY too much, but I believe there are a decent amount of them that are good for both sides, although, I would NOT trade Casey at all for Markstrom if I was New Jersey, so it’s good to see there is only a couple of him in these.


I'd prefer not to send Holtz, Casey or any premium assets...but it sounds like Conroy may have gotten Holtz onto the table.
Question remains over retention...have seen Devils ask anywhere from "15%" ($900k) to "2-3 million".

If it gets to Holtz+Casey+more, than we are probably talking about Markstrom+dman
Nhl_oilers liked this.
Feb. 22 at 11:47 a.m.
#4
Dr_Invictus
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,275
Likes: 877
If CGY and NJ do make a trade this will make for an excellent audit of the ACGMs. Bookmark it.
NHLfan10506 liked this.
Feb. 22 at 11:51 a.m.
#5
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 39,867
Likes: 18,263
Quoting: dgibb10
I enjoy how the list of absolutely ridiculous proposals is triple the size. But hey you start off with the ridiculous ones and then just the normal fleeces don’t look as bad


There are some decent ones in there.
Not sure what the Calgary Puck Insiders are saying lately...lol
Last I saw was its a done deal, Mercer+Casey+1st+cost of retention, will announced after outdoor game.
Feb. 22 at 11:54 a.m.
#6
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 39,867
Likes: 18,263
Quoting: Dr_Invictus
If CGY and NJ do make a trade this will make for an excellent audit of the ACGMs. Bookmark it.


Thanks...Imagine ACGMs in general are much wider range than what GMs are actually discussing.

(also, note this is just the ACGMs coming from Calgary....didn't include NJD ACGMs).
Dr_Invictus liked this.
Feb. 22 at 11:56 a.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2019
Posts: 7,987
Likes: 4,209
Quoting: NHLfan10506
I'd prefer not to send Holtz, Casey or any premium assets...but it sounds like Conroy may have gotten Holtz onto the table.
Question remains over retention...have seen Devils ask anywhere from "15%" ($900k) to "2-3 million".

If it gets to Holtz+Casey+more, than we are probably talking about Markstrom+dman


Yes, then you gotta think if it is truly worth it to ship out that much for Markstrom, and one of Hanifin, or Tanev. Hard to say really. If it is Holtz, Casey+, I would want a decent amount of retention, for them to take Vanecek, and one of those good defenders. In theory, Holtz should work one for one if he is on the table with possibly some retention, but who knows.
Feb. 22 at 12:14 p.m.
#8
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 39,867
Likes: 18,263
Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Yes, then you gotta think if it is truly worth it to ship out that much for Markstrom, and one of Hanifin, or Tanev. Hard to say really. If it is Holtz, Casey+, I would want a decent amount of retention, for them to take Vanecek, and one of those good defenders. In theory, Holtz should work one for one if he is on the table with possibly some retention, but who knows.


I think Fitzy has played his cards right here on Markstrom.

Once news came out that Holtz was made available....look at the events that followed....Carolina exited the goalie market, Colorado and Toronto have taken a step back (maybe backups)...Nashville GM does radio show and names Fitzy directly when saying he is open to selling Saros (Preds coach was a fan of Holtz's in NJ)...Marc-Andre Fleury gets linked to NJD....Montreal GM does interview saying its tough market to sell a goalie since no one is buying....Columbus GM fired days after Devils were linked to Merzlikins (no idea if events are related). The whole market has seemed to sway to more favorable conditions for NJ.

More supply, less demand

But if there is a dman attached....I think Fitzy loses his leverage since Dmen seemed to be short in supply, high in demand.
And other teams may want first-mover advantage.

So I think its in NJ's interest to keep the two separate.
Feb. 22 at 12:17 p.m.
#9
I Love J Boqvist
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2023
Posts: 11,638
Likes: 3,060
Quoting: NHLfan10506
There are some decent ones in there.
Not sure what the Calgary Puck Insiders are saying lately...lol
Last I saw was its a done deal, Mercer+Casey+1st+cost of retention, will announced after outdoor game.


More ridiculousness. Seems like they really want to get rid of Markstrom much more than we want him. But they posture as if they aren’t desperate to move him while his value is highest.

“We can wait till the offseason”
But in the next line
“Conroy cannot wait until the offseason”
Feb. 22 at 1:28 p.m.
#10
Dr_Invictus
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,275
Likes: 877
Quoting: NHLfan10506
Thanks...Imagine ACGMs in general are much wider range than what GMs are actually discussing.

(also, note this is just the ACGMs coming from Calgary....didn't include NJD ACGMs).


That's a ton of work.
NHLfan10506 liked this.
Feb. 22 at 1:56 p.m.
#11
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 39,867
Likes: 18,263
Quoting: Dr_Invictus
That's a ton of work.


I was trying to think of way to put a number on each one…+/- toward NJD to toward CGY. That would have been a lot of work.
Dr_Invictus liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll