As much as I would love Brady, this just feels like too much

Plus don't really want Chychrun

Hell no I’d do a Brady Kyrou swap sure
But Chycrun is not worth the rest

Also Buch gets more

Ottawa should take that all day. Thats a haul that would most definitely help their organization. Give Timmy Stu the C and become a decade long cup contender

I'd rather simplify the deal to be just for Brady.

Also that Buch Trade wouldn't happen, you're basically just adding his entire return to the Ottawa trade.

Brady costs more than just Kyrou. But yes I agree on not wanting to do all this.

Horrific.

Oilers are accepting that trade

dont see Kyrou as a player theyd target. Same with Necas. Players too similar to batherson who they dont need.

understood

blues wouldnt offer this. gross overpay

St Louis definitely passes.

Extremely weak offer on Buchnevich, Detroit would beat that offer.

Better try to build competitive team in the next 3 years, let prospects find their place on the roster and possibly sign Brady in off-season 2028 (if he want to play here after his current contract).

Eh maybe a little more but not that much a 2nd at most. Granted I don’t see either player being a fit for the other team atm

Nope - at minimum Hofer and 1st round equivalent.

Sure

Huh? I'm really struggling to ascertain how so many people think Brady is worth so much more than Kyrou. He ain't. It could be very reasonably argued he's worth less.

Because he is and any NHL scout or GM would agree. Brady doesn’t get benched for lack of effort ever also. You gotta quit with the homer act sometimes. Tkachuk is projected to be on the first or second line on team USA who possibly could be gambling favorites in the 4 nations tourney. Kyrou does not have a prayer of sniffing the Canadian roster - especially with Doug as GM.

Heh. Okay, man. Apparently, not irrationally hating our own players = homer act. Brady doesn't score more than Kyrou. He doesn't drive play or transition more. He gives away the puck more and now has fallen behind Kyrou defensively. He's not signed to a better deal.

So you explain it to me how he's worth a 1st plus a prime young goalie more.

I don’t hate Kyrou - I think he’s overpaid. Thinking Kyrou is better than Tkachuk is the ultimate homer attitude.

And where do you imagine I ever said that? Everybody needs to stop with the homer bull****. At least until they can respond to points without throwing up wild strawmen every 10 words.

Besides, the issue here is not who is better. The issue is you telling me how Brady is worth a 1st and Hofer more than Kyrou. Which has yet to commence.

I can go find some advanced stats that say Brady is better if you want. I don't always agree with them though and know you don't either as we've argued with morons before regarding Parayko.
Doug offered Kyrou plus before for Matthew Tkachuk. I know that wasn't reported nor should it be since he's still on the roster. (I'm not going to get into how I know that) If Brady becomes available, which this might all be a big nothing burger, Doug will make a big play for him. I would bet a decent amount of money that they trade Kyrou before his no-trade kicks in. There is a lot of frustration with him. Can only fire so many coaches...

1 - Again, the issue isn't who's better. The issue is how is Brady worth a 1st and Hofer more. And I'm sure you already know simply throwing xG based stats at me will have zero effect.

2 - Heh. Okay, man. It was specifically and widely reported that he was not offered, so whatever.

3 - Oh stop. As if Kyrou is the cause for any of that. And if you cannot see the advances his game has made this season, there's no point in discussing him at all.

However, you can still feel free to lay out how Brady is worth so much more. Of course, he's not, so I won;t expect anything.

If you believe that the Blues really only offered Tarasenko, Scandella, and a first that was “reported”, I have a bridge to sell you. Of course the line after MT went to Florida was Kyrou was never offered…what else would you want out there…it also factored into the Blues having to overpay Kyrou…

Okay, I didn't say that either, though it was reported from very different places. And Kyrou is not overpaid, dude. Neither him nor Thomas were paid for their current level at the time of signing. It's a long play. And in the long play, whatever you think about his worth now, he's going to be a bargain for the majority of this deal.

And this is still off the path from the original question. Which I suppose means I already got my answer.

Brady is worth a first and Hofer more than Kyrou because he is a leader (even if things are not going well in Ott), and I believe he will develop into the driving force that Matthew is (ok to disagree).

I remember you not wanting to trade Kyrou plus for Matthew last year. Is that still your opinion? If you’re honest and say you can regret that now - then my feeling is that Blues would have same regret on Brady a year from now if he does get moved, and they didn’t do everything to make it happen. And again - they did di more to make Matthew happen than was reported but couldn’t match the Fla offer especially with Vladdy not agreeing to go certain places