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Wishful Thinking

Created by: SHOWTIME_TTV
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2024
Published: Feb. 29, 2024
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Description
They're gonna ride Skinner come playoffs so as long as Pickard gets more starts to lighten the load for the remainder of the season the Oilers don't need a goalie. Worst case they bring Campbell back up for the playoffs.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Purely as a rental. EDM can't afford to extend. If the ask is any higher I'd walk.
PIT
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Holloway, Dylan
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Dowd, Nic
  2. Edmundson, Joel ($875,000 retained)
Additional Details:
WSH wanting a 1st for Dowd, doesn't mean they'll get it. Edmundson is a healthy scratch. There are other teams with a 4C & 7/8D who will take a 2nd & 4th.
WSH
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2025 4th round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Kulak has 2 years remaining. BOS needs D, especially with term.
I'm hesitant to add a pick to Kulak
BOS
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2026 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
3rd team retains 50% on DeBrusk for EDM 2026 4th
4.
EDM
    Sweetener to get DeBrusk?
    BOS
    1. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
    Buyouts
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    2026
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 7
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    RFA - 2
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    $2,600,000$2,600,000
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    UFA - 3
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    UFA - 2
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    $762,500$762,500
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    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    RFA - 1
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    $762,500$762,500
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    UFA - 1
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    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
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    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Feb. 29 at 1:00 a.m.
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    no.
    Feb. 29 at 1:07 a.m.
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    If I'm the Pens GM I'm really liking it . As an Oiler Gm I don't make that trade ..Imo Holloway matures into a real nice middle six player . I don't see a problem with Dowd / Edmundson, but Debrusk would likely cost a 1st and Kulak with a mid round or B prospect coming back
    Feb. 29 at 1:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Idontwearhockeypants
    If I'm the Pens GM I'm really liking it . As an Oiler Gm I don't make that trade ..Imo Holloway matures into a real nice middle six player . I don't see a problem with Dowd / Edmundson, but Debrusk would likely cost a 1st and Kulak with a mid round or B prospect coming back


    Cost to get a playoff performer like Guentzel.
    I feel like a 1st+Kulak+mid round or B prospect is too rich. I like DeBrusk but he's not worth that haul IMO
    Feb. 29 at 1:12 a.m.
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    no.


    I honestly hope PIT finds a team willing to pay more for an extended Guentzel but I'm having a hard time seeing who has the assets to do it. As a rental this is a good return for him.
    Feb. 29 at 1:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: SHOWTIME_TTV
    I honestly hope PIT finds a team willing to pay more for an extended Guentzel but I'm having a hard time seeing who has the assets to do it. As a rental this is a good return for him.


    no it is not, a 3rd would be more valuable than Warren Fogele.
    Feb. 29 at 1:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: Idontwearhockeypants
    If I'm the Pens GM I'm really liking it . As an Oiler Gm I don't make that trade ..Imo Holloway matures into a real nice middle six player . I don't see a problem with Dowd / Edmundson, but Debrusk would likely cost a 1st and Kulak with a mid round or B prospect coming back


    Lmao that's a garbage offer Guentzel. Foegele is the most intriguing piece which is saying something.

    Holloway is 22 and can't produce at all in the NHL and the 1st round pick is basically a lottery ticket.
    Feb. 29 at 1:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: pens1991
    no it is not, a 3rd would be more valuable than Warren Fogele.


    So you don't watch anyone other than the Pens.

    Foegele comes in after trading Guentzel and still gives PIT a chance to make the playoffs... A 3rd isn't helping for years
    Feb. 29 at 1:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: PenGoater99
    Lmao that's a garbage offer Guentzel. Foegele is the most intriguing piece which is saying something.

    Holloway is 22 and can't produce at all in the NHL and the 1st round pick is basically a lottery ticket.


    You guys clearly do not watch the Oilers tears of joy
    Feb. 29 at 1:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: SHOWTIME_TTV
    So you don't watch anyone other than the Pens.

    Foegele comes in after trading Guentzel and still gives PIT a chance to make the playoffs... A 3rd isn't helping for years


    You clearly don't understand what the plan for the penguins is if they sell at the deadline.

    If they sell Jake then it doesn't much matter if they make the playoffs this year. The goal is to acquire assets to retool for the offseason. He's a UFA, that means he has no value.
    Feb. 29 at 1:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: pens1991
    You clearly don't understand what the plan for the penguins is if they sell at the deadline.

    If they sell Jake then it doesn't much matter if they make the playoffs this year. The goal is to acquire assets to retool for the offseason. He's a UFA, that means he has no value.


    You clearly don't understand what it means to owners to make the playoffs, even if they got swept in the 1st round!
    Crosby & Co want to be in the playoffs whether Guentzel stays or not!
    Feb. 29 at 1:25 a.m.
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    You clearly don't understand what it means to owners to make the playoffs, even if they got swept in the 1st round!
    Crosby & Co want to be in the playoffs whether Guentzel stays or not!


    You're actually dumb.

    You should be a Leafs fan.
    Feb. 29 at 1:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: PenGoater99
    Lmao that's a garbage offer Guentzel. Foegele is the most intriguing piece which is saying something.

    Holloway is 22 and can't produce at all in the NHL and the 1st round pick is basically a lottery ticket.


    Settle .....young one . 22 is very young for a pro hockey player in the best league in the world .. He is in the infancy of likely a long career. Not all 1st rounders are stars by the time they are 22. Most are not . Many aren't even in the league yet. Their is a lot more runway with this player . You show how naive you are thinking Foegle is a better asset than Dylan Holloway.
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    Feb. 29 at 1:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: pens1991
    You're actually dumb.

    You should be a Leafs fan.


    Crosby wants to be in the playoffs... He's not going to pack it in cuz management & Guentzel couldn't make it work... Get a grip!
    Feb. 29 at 1:33 a.m.
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    The Penguins btw are going to need all the lottery tickets they can get . Guentzel is a rental for a team. Strictly a rental . You aren't going to rebuild the Pens with a Guentzel trade.
    Feb. 29 at 1:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: SHOWTIME_TTV
    Crosby wants to be in the playoffs... He's not going to pack it in cuz management & Guentzel couldn't make it work... Get a grip!


    Who said Crosby was going to pack it in ? He's a professional
    Feb. 29 at 1:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: Idontwearhockeypants
    Who said Crosby was going to pack it in ? He's a professional


    Quoting: pens1991
    You clearly don't understand what the plan for the penguins is if they sell at the deadline.

    If they sell Jake then it doesn't much matter if they make the playoffs this year. The goal is to acquire assets to retool for the offseason. He's a UFA, that means he has no value.


    This is what he said!
    Feb. 29 at 1:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: SHOWTIME_TTV
    You guys clearly do not watch the Oilers tears of joy


    This guy wants superstars back for rentals ..what he fails to realize is if Guentzel gets traded that's a clear indication that management is changing course . And the new priority is to acquire assets for the future .
    Feb. 29 at 1:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: SHOWTIME_TTV
    Crosby wants to be in the playoffs... He's not going to pack it in cuz management & Guentzel couldn't make it work... Get a grip!


    I would hope every pro would want to be in the playoffs . But are smart enough to know it's unlikely to happen every year of your career . Be happy , the Penguins are proud ex champions . More than a few teams can't say that ..
    Feb. 29 at 1:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Idontwearhockeypants
    This guy wants superstars back for rentals ..what he fails to realize is if Guentzel gets traded that's a clear indication that management is changing course . And the new priority is to acquire assets for the future .


    If PIT can't re-sign guentzel and instead trade him they need to move on. Unless they plan to trade Crosby & Co as well they're going to want to fill the holes left from the players they cant keep and try to get this core back into the playoffs before the end of 87s contract!
    Feb. 29 at 1:46 a.m.
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    Quoting: Idontwearhockeypants
    I would hope every pro would want to be in the playoffs . But are smart enough to know it's unlikely to happen every year of your career . Be happy , the Penguins are proud ex champions . More than a few teams can't say that ..


    He's still one of the best players in the world... I don't think he wants to pack it in if Guentzel doesn't stay... THAT'S THE POINT!
    Feb. 29 at 11:10 a.m.
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    If there is no first out there for Dowd, i would bet the Caps just hold on to him. And Edmundson has been healthy scratched MAYBE twice this year, if at all. He's spent a good chunk of this season on the second pair actually. Not saying he's been good there, but he's definitely not a healthy scratch. Although on a cup winning team he might be.
    Feb. 29 at 11:35 a.m.
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    Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
    If there is no first out there for Dowd, i would bet the Caps just hold on to him. And Edmundson has been healthy scratched MAYBE twice this year, if at all. He's spent a good chunk of this season on the second pair actually. Not saying he's been good there, but he's definitely not a healthy scratch. Although on a cup winning team he might be.


    Asking a 1st for Dowd is too much. He's worth more this TDL than next year.
    Edmundson is def a healthy scratch on most playoff teams. It would be a depth move, nothing more.
     
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