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testing trade

Created by: nosk
Published: Feb. 29 at 1:51 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 49/192 (26%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Chicago BlackhawksChicago Blackhawks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonChicago BlackhawksNHL25%$622,070011---5991221--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonSt. Louis BluesNHL50%$829,427011---5991221--
2026 4th round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$9,222,2042345765129
Change-$207,357000001
Final$9,014,847 (↓)23457651210 (↑)000

Logo of the St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonSt. Louis BluesNHL50%$829,427011---5991221--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gregor, NoahToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$197,786011---535611--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$484,9872347683811
Change$631,641000100
Final$1,116,628 (↑)2347684 (↑)811-4-6-10

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gregor, NoahToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$775,000011---535611--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
2026 4th round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Parayko, ColtonChicago BlackhawksNHL25%$2,437,500011---5991221--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,134,9992347622315
Change-$1,662,500000-10-1
Final$472,499 (↓)2347621 (↓)314 (↓)4610
Feb. 29 at 2:26 p.m.
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He has 6 more years left on his deal. Zero teams are going to take on retention for that long. Especially for basically nothing like is shown here lol
I dont get the feeling the Blues are looking to move him. Although they should, because they are not a good team and need a full rebuild badly.
He is a good player, but at 30 years old, maybe 2 or 3 good years left in him. I dont think many teams are lining up to take on that contract either. Not a great solution for the Leafs. Good player though.
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Feb. 29 at 3:06 p.m.
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I'm trying reeeeeal hard to be polite here. Just know that, please. Everything I'm about to say is coming from a dry, matter of fact, unemotional, informative place.

This is utter trash. This "offer" does not come anywhere near the galaxy of paying for just the 20M in retention you are never getting from STL, and that goes extra mega super double triple for the 10M in retention you want from Chicago (who the Blues do NOT trade with) for a 4th. Bruh. Go make a Larsson offer. Or some other RD. Parayko is not available, and Toronto could not afford him if he was.
Feb. 29 at 3:32 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi

Parayko is not available



He could become available if Blues Really need to Fully rebuild / Retool as he have good value and could bring back excellent return. And if there an trade it would be more an summer trade as it is more easy to work cap space.

But your right no team will ever take that much retention for this less value. If there was one or two year maybe team would entertain the idea of retention but not 6 years.
Feb. 29 at 4:01 p.m.
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He could become available if Blues Really need to Fully rebuild / Retool as he have good value and could bring back excellent return. And if there an trade it would be more an summer trade as it is more easy to work cap space.

But your right no team will ever take that much retention for this less value. If there was one or two year maybe team would entertain the idea of retention but not 6 years.


There is not going to be a full rebuild. Not happening. Nor should it. People need to let that notion go. The franchise cannot afford it and the fans would melt down halfway through the first season, and meanwhile we're totally punting the primes of Thomas and Kyrou. It would take a cartoonishly ridiculous offer to get Parayko.
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Feb. 29 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
He could become available if Blues Really need to Fully rebuild / Retool as he have good value and could bring back excellent return. And if there an trade it would be more an summer trade as it is more easy to work cap space.

But your right no team will ever take that much retention for this less value. If there was one or two year maybe team would entertain the idea of retention but not 6 years.


What team develops an elite center and then enters into a rebuild as he is turning 24/25? Especially when they have a veteran goalie who is playing outstanding and a young goalie who is playing great and developing well? We don't have a barren prospect pool.
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Feb. 29 at 5:54 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 29 at 6:00 p.m.
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What team develops an elite center and then enters into a rebuild as he is turning 24/25? Especially when they have a veteran goalie who is playing outstanding and a young goalie who is playing great and developing well? We don't have a barren prospect pool.


Buffalo did with Eichel he has 24/25 and still was on rebuilding face. It's may not be an rebuild and more an retool in there case but what if Blues get an offer of A+ prospect, First round pick in an good year draft and an youngish Roster player for Parayko ? You would at least take the time to listen and think about it.


Edit: just think about it, Chicago did it also with Dach and Debrincat, trade both of them when they were in rebuilding mode.
Feb. 29 at 6:07 p.m.
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Buffalo did with Eichel he has 24/25 and still was on rebuilding face. It's may not be an rebuild and more an retool in there case but what if Blues get an offer of A+ prospect, First round pick in an good year draft and an youngish Roster player for Parayko ? You would at least take the time to listen and think about it.


Edit: just think about it, Chicago did it also with Dach and Debrincat, trade both of them when they were in rebuilding mode.


Buffalo is still in a perpetual rebuild. Chicago is the worst team in the league and things wont get better, if they do for years. Their only saving grace is that they won the lottery in a good year to win it. Neither of those scenarios are smart to shoot for. As for Chicago I wouldn't consider Dach elite, and Debrincat isn't a center but is a 1st line center. Neither were signed to term and it was a new regime that came in to committ to a full rebuild.

Lets go with this in terms of your hypothetical. If the Blues get an offer of Nemec/Jiricek + 1st + a young player who is playing and great and developing well hell yes i take that and run. But that doesn't signify a full rebuild and no team should or would do that type of a deal. There are very few scenarios in which the Blues can consider moving Parayko. And they all begin with a very high end defenseman prospect who is 1-3 years out coming back in return. Who is going to trade that for Parayko?
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Feb. 29 at 6:20 p.m.
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
Buffalo did with Eichel he has 24/25 and still was on rebuilding face. It's may not be an rebuild and more an retool in there case but what if Blues get an offer of A+ prospect, First round pick in an good year draft and an youngish Roster player for Parayko ? You would at least take the time to listen and think about it.


Edit: just think about it, Chicago did it also with Dach and Debrincat, trade both of them when they were in rebuilding mode.


Dude, Buffalo has been "rebuilding" since 1831. Are you sure that's the example you want to go with to reinforce the trade concept? tears of joy
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Feb. 29 at 6:25 p.m.
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Buffalo is still in a perpetual rebuild. Chicago is the worst team in the league and things wont get better, if they do for years. Their only saving grace is that they won the lottery in a good year to win it. Neither of those scenarios are smart to shoot for. As for Chicago I wouldn't consider Dach elite, and Debrincat isn't a center but is a 1st line center. Neither were signed to term and it was a new regime that came in to committ to a full rebuild.

Lets go with this in terms of your hypothetical. If the Blues get an offer of Nemec/Jiricek + 1st + a young player who is playing and great and developing well hell yes i take that and run. But that doesn't signify a full rebuild and no team should or would do that type of a deal. There are very few scenarios in which the Blues can consider moving Parayko. And they all begin with a very high end defenseman prospect who is 1-3 years out coming back in return. Who is going to trade that for Parayko?


An team that see is window closing soon and is not enough patients to wait the young prospect growth could go for him at summer. An gm who's feel is job in danger and do trade to try to stay in place.

Like you say in the right scenario he could become available but not necessarily for nothing.
Feb. 29 at 9:48 p.m.
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I'm trying reeeeeal hard to be polite here. Just know that, please. Everything I'm about to say is coming from a dry, matter of fact, unemotional, informative place.

This is utter trash. This "offer" does not come anywhere near the galaxy of paying for just the 20M in retention you are never getting from STL, and that goes extra mega super double triple for the 10M in retention you want from Chicago (who the Blues do NOT trade with) for a 4th. Bruh. Go make a Larsson offer. Or some other RD. Parayko is not available, and Toronto could not afford him if he was.

Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
Buffalo did with Eichel he has 24/25 and still was on rebuilding face. It's may not be an rebuild and more an retool in there case but what if Blues get an offer of A+ prospect, First round pick in an good year draft and an youngish Roster player for Parayko ? You would at least take the time to listen and think about it.


Edit: just think about it, Chicago did it also with Dach and Debrincat, trade both of them when they were in rebuilding mode.


what you fail to realize is Dach and Debrincat were traded when they had 1 year left and the other was an RFA. They didn't have 6 years left on their contract. You dont trade a piece of your core that you have locked up long term.
 
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