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Created by: batman
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 2, 2024
Published: Mar. 2, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
PIT
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  2. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,016,917$450,000$520,000$2,483,083
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 2 at 12:37 p.m.
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That isn’t a now or never trade. Pass.

Guentzel is worth a 1st and B prospect just like every other top rental
Mar. 2 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
That isn’t a now or never trade. Pass.

Guentzel is worth a 1st and B prospect just like every other top rental


That might be the dumbest take I've seen in the last year or so. Every rental is worth the same, regardless of talent / age / stats?
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Mar. 2 at 12:40 p.m.
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I didn't realize Jesperi Kotkaniemi was having such an underwhelming year. That's a tough one batman. I like him as a player, but the market for middle line forwards has been weakening for years in the stagnant cap. He probably would be a good 3C which PIT could use. Id just rather futures only though.
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Mar. 2 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
That isn’t a now or never trade. Pass.

Guentzel is worth a 1st and B prospect just like every other top rental


Who do you think the Canes are going after? Henrique?
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Mar. 2 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: jfkst1
I didn't realize Jesperi Kotkaniemi was having such an underwhelming year. That's a tough one batman. I like him as a player, but the market for middle line forwards has been weakening for years in the stagnant cap. He probably would be a good 3C which PIT could use. Id just rather futures only though.



Totally right. With his 4.8M cap hit for 7more years, would be hard to see many teams interested. Although he fits what Dubas wants, young talented players.
Mar. 2 at 12:43 p.m.
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Quoting: batman
Who do you think the Canes are going after? Henrique?


Doubtful, he hasn’t played center in some time.

We’ll either go for Buchnevich/ vatrano as a bigger acquisition or more likely get Zucker
Mar. 2 at 12:43 p.m.
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The Pens would ask for a top prospect as well. One of: Nadeau / Sorum / Nikishin
Mar. 2 at 12:44 p.m.
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Carolina and Detroit fans on this site are the most insufferable haughty know it alls. They expect every deal to be Burns or DeBrincat 2.0. When it's not they leave a conceited response.


This is rich. Have you met Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal fans?

I get caniac2000 is insufferable but to make such a claim about an entire fan base is silly. See how it works when I do it? See how it isn’t true too?

Top rentals don’t pull as much as everyone claims every year. Prove me wrong though
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Mar. 2 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: batman
Totally right. With his 4.8M cap hit for 7more years, would be hard to see many teams interested. Although he fits what Dubas wants, young talented players.


So I expect with the cap going up, the market for middle of the lineup forwards will get more charitable. It's just with a flat cap, teams are looking at those middle of the lineup forwards and thinking I'd rather just have a very low cap hit player instead and save that money for top of the lineup player. I do think he would be a quality third line center on a contender. Just not sure Pittsburgh fits that at all as they likely need a long rebuild.
Mar. 2 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Victor24
That might be the dumbest take I've seen in the last year or so. Every rental is worth the same, regardless of talent / age / stats?


Hyperbole is strong with this one
Mar. 2 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
This is rich. Have you met Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal fans?


In person Carolina fans are great. But on this site you guys are awful. Detroit fans are awful everywhere and it's been like that on every site I've ever interacted with them. And I'm sure Penguins fans are can be bad too.
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Mar. 2 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: batman
Totally right. With his 4.8M cap hit for 7more years, would be hard to see many teams interested. Although he fits what Dubas wants, young talented players.


I think the Pens would be interested as the player piece but it still needs a high end prospect with the 1st
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Mar. 2 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: jfkst1
Carolina and Detroit fans on this site are the most insufferable haughty know it alls. They expect every deal to be Burns or DeBrincat 2.0. When it's not they leave a conceited response.


Every canes fan says no to Guentzel Lindholm trades. One told me no to a Lindholm trade because they apparently " didn’t need him or KK was their 2C ". Another one told me no to a Tarasenko trade. The return I proposed was a 2nd and Koivunen..
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Mar. 2 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Hyperbole is strong with this one


If your take was sarcastic then I recend my comment. But you have to admit, there are people on this site who would say that in earnest.
Mar. 2 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: batman
Every canes fan says no to Guentzel Lindholm trades. One told me no to a Lindholm trade because they apparently " didn’t need him or KK was their 2C ". Another one told me no to a Tarasenko trade. The return I proposed was a 2nd and Koivunen..


I do think CAR have one of the best front offices in the league. But the way fans on here go about acting as if everyone else is an idiot and their franchise is a dynasty is infuriating. Detroit fans on here act like Yzerman is a genius even though he makes plenty of bad decisions too.
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Mar. 2 at 12:49 p.m.
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Every canes fan says no to Guentzel Lindholm trades. One told me no to a Lindholm trade because they apparently " didn’t need him or KK was their 2C ". Another one told me no to a Tarasenko trade. The return I proposed was a 2nd and Koivunen..


Yep and look at canes previous 5 trade deadlines and realize we are right
Mar. 2 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Yep and look at canes previous 5 trade deadlines and realize we are right


Yep and look at the canes 5 previous playoffs outcomes and realize y’all ain’t that
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Mar. 2 at 12:52 p.m.
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Yep and look at the canes 5 previous playoffs outcomes and realize y’all ain’t that


Lol. Tell me more about the correlation between big rental spending and winning in the playoffs.

Do you want to ask the Boston, TMLs, and Rangers fans?

How about we ask the Florida fans about the Giroux deadline?

Should we explore Florida’s trade deadline from last year?
Mar. 2 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: batman
Who do you think the Canes are going after? Henrique?


No one cause their front office is full of cowards
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Mar. 2 at 12:54 p.m.
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No one cause their front office is full of cowards


Lolololol
Mar. 2 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Lol. Tell me more about the correlation between big rental spending and winning in the playoffs.

Do you want to ask the Boston, TMLs, and Rangers fans?

How about we ask the Florida fans about the Giroux deadline?

Should we explore Florida’s trade deadline from last year?


Yea ask Vegas fans how much they miss Zach Dean and that 2nd round pick
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Mar. 2 at 12:57 p.m.
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Yea ask Vegas fans how much they miss Zach Dean and that 2nd round pick


😂😂
Mar. 2 at 12:58 p.m.
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Yea ask Vegas fans how much they miss Zach Dean and that 2nd round pick


Yea 1 example of a non big deadline acquisition really supports that claim
Mar. 2 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Yea 1 example of a non big deadline acquisition really supports that claim


1st round pick prospect & and a 2nd. Canes fans would want EP40 for that package lol
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Mar. 2 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Yea 1 example of a non big deadline acquisition really supports that claim


Literally offered the same **** for Tarasenko and y’all were like " pass " 😂💀. But it’s okay go after Barabanov and get out in ECF.
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