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Created by: Coleharborcrosby
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 4, 2024
Published: Mar. 4, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Sad man.
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VGK)
2.
PIT
VAN
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. Ruhwedel, Chad
  3. 2025 5th round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
4.
PIT
  1. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Pens condition not met, pick in top 10 in 2024
SJS
  1. 2025 1st round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the PIT
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Logo of the PIT
Logo of the NYR
2025
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
2026
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the PIT
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Logo of the SJS
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$77,164,342$0$850,000$6,335,658
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$850,000$850,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1

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Mar. 4 at 9:37 p.m.
#1
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That 2nd round pick in the Vancouver trade would need to be a 1st for this to make sense for Pits. Pod has limited value.
Mar. 4 at 9:38 p.m.
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HonestHockeyNYI
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What’s the reasoning behind the 1st round pick swap between the Pens & the Sharks? Personally, I don’t think they (San Jose) would be interested in doing that.
Mar. 4 at 9:57 p.m.
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ChadBradson
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
What’s the reasoning behind the 1st round pick swap between the Pens & the Sharks? Personally, I don’t think they (San Jose) would be interested in doing that.


Its because of the conditions on the first, its a top 10 protected first. OP is saying Pit finishes bottom 10 so the sharks get their 2025 1st instead
Mar. 4 at 10:29 p.m.
#4
SkateOrDie
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these constant low ball offers, like the penguins would demand a 1st being included here.
Mar. 4 at 11:05 p.m.
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Lekkerimaki is not on the table
Mar. 4 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: ChadBradson
Its because of the conditions on the first, its a top 10 protected first. OP is saying Pit finishes bottom 10 so the sharks get their 2025 1st instead


I do somewhat wonder about it. The phrasing on the trade seemed to be that the Pens would get the option to either give the top 10 2024 1st or defer it to 2025 as opposed to it automatically being deferred.

If the pick is 9th or 10th do the Pens choose to defer it and risk dropping off more next season and pulling a Sharks (giving up the 3rd overall pick which became Tim Stutzle), or do they just give the pick up now? The Pens had an incredibly healthy season (4.1M in cap hit man games lost, 10th lowest in the league. 150 total man games lost) and they're one of the oldest teams in the league. It's not unreasonable to see a scenario where the one or more of the "big 4" (they seem to be counting EK65 in that now) miss a good chunk of time with injury considering the youngest of them will be 34 and already has an extensive injury history.

Obviously if they somehow end up with a top 5 or so pick, whether from winning the lottery or just completely falling off a cliff they'll defer, but I'm curious what the threshold for them actually choosing to defer is.
Mar. 5 at 12:01 a.m.
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ZarktheShark
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
What’s the reasoning behind the 1st round pick swap between the Pens & the Sharks? Personally, I don’t think they (San Jose) would be interested in doing that.


From the Karlsson trade over the summer. Our 1st we traded was top 10 protected, meaning if we finish in the bottom 10 of the standings we decide which pick we give SJ, top 10 pick in 24 (almost definitely wont) or whatever our 1st ends in being in 25. But only if we finish bottom 10....
 
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