The Reporting indicates Dubas prefers players to picks

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Created by: edeangel84

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2024

Published: Mar. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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“The sense is the Penguins after that road trip have a very clear sense of what needs to be done before Friday's deadline. And charting a course accordingly. Exploring all options with view to bolster the club for the future. Hearing there's 6-plus legit suitors for Guentzel, VGK and VAN among them.”
Lebrun

On the "32 Thoughts" podcast, Friedman said:
“Pittsburgh is telling teams they don’t want picks for Guentzel, they want prospects, that’s what they prefer, when you look at the teams that have some of the best prospects, Carolina is right up there.”

Yohe’s reporting backs this up as well as an incoming firesale that I’m sure will go into the summer.

My order of preference based on what they can pay:

1 Vancouver
2 Carolina (highly doubtful)
3 Vegas (most likely)
4 Kings
5 Rags
6 Avs
7 Oilers

Trades

PIT

Additional Details:

I still think Vegas is destination numero uno. They pay

VGK

Jake with retention

PIT

Additional Details:

Jake at 50%. Taking Mikheyev back gives them a better chance at resigning him.

VAN

PIT

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They have awful assets and I hope they aren’t in play.

EDM

PIT

Blake, Jackson [Reserve List]
Koivunen, Ville
Ponomarev, Vasili
2024 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Jake 50%. They have some decent prospects but they also are not aggressive at the deadline and I doubt they are going to make a serious bid.

PIT

Kakko, Kaapo
Othmann, Brennan
2024 1st round pick (NYR)
2026 3rd round pick (NYR)

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I am no big fan of Kakko and I would hate to see Jake in that Rag sweater but I’m sure they’ll make a bid.

NYR

PIT

Connors, Kenny [Reserve List]
Kaliyev, Arthur
Turcotte, Alex
2024 1st round pick (LAK)

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They once had a very impressive prospect pool but the forwards really have shown little so far. I doubt they are a major player.

LAK

PIT

O'Connor, Logan
Olausson, Oskar
Ritchie, Calum [Reserve List]
2026 2nd round pick (COL)

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If Ritchie panned out this would be a decent return but he’s still no where near the NHL and I doubt his happens.

COL

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
42	$83,500,000	$104,360,967	$0	$3,972,500	-$20,860,967

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1
Harkins, Jansen $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Bemström, Emil $900,000$900,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Gruden, Jonathan $775,000$775,000 LW RFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Puljujärvi, Jesse $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 2
Dorofeyev, Pavel $825,000$825,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Brisson, Brendan $925,000$925,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 2	Puustinen, Valtteri $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Bains, Arshdeep $816,667$816,667 LW RFA - 2	Howden, Brett $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Phillips, Matthew $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Räty, Aatu $836,667$836,667 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 2	Lekkerimäki, Jonathan $950,000$950,000 ($475,000$475K) RW, C RFA - 3
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Ponomarev, Vasili $795,000$795,000 ($20,000$20K) C RFA - 2	Bourgault, Xavier $925,000$925,000 ($250,000$250K) RW RFA - 2
Othmann, Brennan $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LW RFA - 3	Turcotte, Alex $894,167$894,167 ($1,550,000$2M) C RFA - 1	Lavoie, Raphael $874,125$874,125 RW, C RFA - 1
		Koivunen, Ville $805,833$805,833 ($82,500$82K) RW RFA - 3
		Kakko, Kaapo $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW RFA - 1
		Kaliyev, Arthur $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) RW, LW RFA - 1
		O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
		Olausson, Oskar $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5	Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Mar. 5 at 12:15 p.m.

canucksfan43

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Lekkerimaki is still not available and that isnt changing. Canucks arent trading him Hoglander or Willander for a half season rental

Mar. 5 at 12:16 p.m.

Caniac2000

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Canes tend to be aggressive at the deadline, but they don't overpay. They don't get involved in bidding wars. If the value is right, they'll pull the trigger. This is way too much, especially for a rental.

Mar. 5 at 12:17 p.m.

jfkst1

"Go sell ice cream!"

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The packages from VGK, NYR, LAK, EDM are all weak.

Mar. 5 at 12:18 p.m.

GM69

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NYR decline. Not trading both Kakko + Othmann for a rental. NYR cannot afford Jake next year

Mar. 5 at 12:18 p.m.

edeangel84

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JimmyPaek

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Quoting: canucksfan43

Lekkerimaki is still not available and that isnt changing. Canucks arent trading him Hoglander or Willander for a half season rental

If thats true then they wouldn’t be named by every reporter.

Mar. 5 at 12:20 p.m.

canucksfan43

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Quoting: edeangel84

If thats true then they wouldn’t be named by every reporter.

We've made our big move and Lekkeriamaki is our top prospect, we just took Willander over guys like ASP and Zach Benson and Hoglander has thrived in his role this year. Just cause we're being mentioned by reporters doesn't mean they are offering up any of those 3 guys. I dont think the Canucks are the team Guenztel ends up in as i feel another team pays more than us, i could be wrong but thats just my stance.

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Mar. 5 at 12:24 p.m.

edeangel84

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JimmyPaek

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Quoting: canucksfan43

Raty simply isn’t good enough to drive a trade for a top 15 NHL winger.

Mar. 5 at 12:25 p.m.

J44

Just a Canuck

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I really don’t want the Canucks to trade for Jake, but If they give up that much for him…. I’m going to jump ship become a flames fan….

I’m ok with Raty and a mikeyev in a trade but would rather someone with term, and maybe a bit younger

Would love to see something like raty, podkolzin, 1st and mikeyev for Dylan Cozens from Buffalo he’s been underperforming and might need a bit of a change

Mar. 5 at 12:27 p.m.

J44

Just a Canuck

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Quoting: canucksfan43

I also don’t think bains is getting traded I bet he makes the team out of camp next year and by the end of the year riding along side miller and brock

Mar. 5 at 12:46 p.m.

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seanrushton

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Quoting: Caniac2000

Whew that's a rough offer... two of our five best prospects + 2nd is just too much

Mar. 5 at 12:51 p.m.

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ecupirate07

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canes gracious thank you for your time and back out of negotiations for a rental.

Mar. 5 at 1:37 p.m.

#12

VGKNation702

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Only way Brisson is going is with a new contract for jake

Mar. 5 at 1:38 p.m.

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edeangel84

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JimmyPaek

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Only way Brisson is going is with a new contract for jake

Vegas probably has an easier time doing that than anyone else involved. You’ll have quite a bit of space to resign him.

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Mar. 5 at 4:03 p.m.

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LuckyMoneyPuck

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you forgot to add in DAL.

Mar. 5 at 4:06 p.m.

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LuckyMoneyPuck

SkateOrDie

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Quoting: canucksfan43

Lekkerimaki is still not available and that isnt changing. Canucks arent trading him Hoglander or Willander for a half season rental

Neither one of you know your GM to well.
A. he'll be resigned by JR.
B. JR doesn't give a crap about futures. If he see's his shot to win a cup is now, he's taking it.
1 cup in hand is worth more than "future chances" that might never get anywhere.
JR will deplete your entire prospect pool and draft stock..... but in the process you'll win a cup or two.

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Mar. 5 at 4:19 p.m.

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Warpbox

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

You don't even know who our GM is lol

Mar. 5 at 4:33 p.m.

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LuckyMoneyPuck

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Quoting: Warpbox

You don't even know who our GM is lol

GM president same thing... Point being. JR has his hands on your team. Your prospects and draft picks are out the window man.
He's there to win a cup.... as in NOW.

Mar. 5 at 5:24 p.m.

#18

edeangel84

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JimmyPaek

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

1 cup in hand is worth more than "future chances" that might never get anywhere.

95% of the CF users don’t know this.

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