Jul. 6, 2016
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That package should get a late 1st at minimum..
Also, talk about screwing the long term cap of the team. I think NYR have learned the hard way enough times with giving bridge deals (i.e. Stepan, Kreider, Zucc, Hayes, JT Miller, Staal, Girardi, Lundqvist, etc.). Each of those players had a semi-bridge deal 1-3 years and then cashed in. Calling it now, if NYR do not learn Lindgren is going to be the next Dan Girardi. He will be overpaid on his next contract and it will turn into a burden.
Giving Laffy 6+ years should be the priority, followed by Miller for 4+ years.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Masonh618</b></div><div>Why not bridge one of the two?
It seems reasonable to me that K'Andre Miller's next contract will resemble that of Ryan Lindgren.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>You're going to give $6.4M to a guy with career highs of 19g and 31p? You shouldn't be giving out extensions based on a player's position in the draft. Any more than $3.5M for Lafreniere is too much based on his body of work thus far.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jschultz18</b></div><div>Laf probably won't get close to this much unless he goes off. Also Trouba can be traded to clear cap. Goodrow too.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Icehockey18121124</b></div><div>Highly doubt Laf considers 8 years unless he is over a ppg this year and if he does it will be way more than 6.4.
If he gets close to .5 ppg but still under this year I doubt he does more than 2 or 3 years and that would be probably be around 3 but may be as high as 4 if it is 3 years.
If he is between .5 and .75 ppg then he may do 4 years but that would be bad for nyr but should be closer to 5 mil.
If he is over .75 then it will probably be 3-5 years closer to your number.
NYR should try to do 3 years and line it up with the end of Trouba’s deal. That way they can spend with term on others and not have to worry about how to find cap space for Laf</div></div>
If you look at the compatibles I posted, none were point per game players when they signed their deals. Most had at least one 50 point season under their belt. Assuming Laffy gets somewhere from 50-60 points this season (not crazy if he gets PP1 time), I would 100% give him the 8 year deal. It has bargain written all over it over the final 4 years. Miller I would do at least 4 years. I wouldn’t do less, let Panarin and all them come off the books before he cashes in. Same with Kakkos eventual extension(s).
NYR historically have not done the long extensions for young players. Stepan, Kreider, Zucc, JT Miller, Hayes, McDonagh, Staal, Girardi all got multiple bridge deals which ended up with them pricing themselves out. Look at Tampa, Colorado, etc. Most top teams are smart to max term the players that are important to their future. I think locking up shesty only the 4-5 years was such a mistake. If he keeps it up, he will be 30 when his next max contract starts and we all see how that can pan out (lundqvist, price, etc.) when it comes to a goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>When teams pay first round picks for two months of Savard and Foligno, nobody should be surprised if an actually good rental gets a massive haul. It should not be surprising at all
Patrik Allvin and Ruthford don’t seem like the kind of guys to settle for a deal either. What ever the trade is, it won’t be worse than Chytil Lundkvist and a first round pick</div></div>
The last player on the type of heater that Miller was on last year that was traded as a rental was Duchene (from Ottawa to Columbus) who had 58 points in 50 games at the time of the trade (1.16 points per game). He was great on faceoffs and could play center or the wing. Throughout the rest of his career, he was a 50-70 point player. The return was Abramov (a b- prospect at the time, former 3rd rounder), Davidsson (c- prospect at the time, former 6th round pick), a 1st round pick, and a conditional 1st if he resigned. He didn't resign so essentially he was traded for Abramov, Davidsson and a 1st round pick.
I do think that he will end up getting more than the rangers gave up for Copp which was:
2022 Conditional 2nd rounder (turned into a 1st if NYR made ECF) -- 1st rounder transfers as NYR made ECF
Choice of 2022 or 2023 2nd Rounder -- (currently TBD)
Morgan Barron (b- prospect)
I think NYR have pulled Chytil from that deal at this point and replaced with a 2nd or 3rd round pick (or a lesser prospect like Robertson/Henriksson/Berard). I do believe they would've offered that deal prior to the last trade deadline.
Of course, this is all circumstantial. There are so many factors that it depends on (bidding war, Miller replicating this past years production if not traded this summer, similar players made available due to flat cap, etc).
On the overall post, I think you hit the nail on the head.