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The Guentzal Lindholm three way

Created by: Mediumyeet
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 5, 2024
Published: Mar. 5, 2024
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What do you think of this framework? Maybe some minor pieces or picks involved somewhere as well but this being the base.

Boston gets their C and probably extend him.

Canucks get their winger and also probably extend him.

Pittsburgh gets their 2 prospects in Lysell and Podkolzin plus a roster player that they might look to extend as well.
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,255,417$850,000$0$2,244,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Mar. 5 at 5:43 p.m.
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I'm not big on Pod or Lysell. But I do like DeBrusk more than most.
Mar. 5 at 5:46 p.m.
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I'm not big on Pod or Lysell. But I do like DeBrusk more than most.


I'm not huge on those two either but they do fit the mold of what Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for (I know there are conflicting reports). Both guys are former 1st round picks that are probably ready for full time roster spots next season and would definitely inject some youth into the lineup.

Debrusk is also younger than a lot of Pittsburgh's players and would be a roster player coming back that doesn't signal to the locker room that they're completely giving up on this season.
Mar. 5 at 5:48 p.m.
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I'm not huge on those two either but they do fit the mold of what Pittsburgh is reportedly looking for (I know there are conflicting reports). Both guys are former 1st round picks that are probably ready for full time roster spots next season and would definitely inject some youth into the lineup.

Debrusk is also younger than a lot of Pittsburgh's players and would be a roster player coming back that doesn't signal to the locker room that they're completely giving up on this season.


They should completely give up on this season. I'd prefer they flip DeBrusk.
Mar. 5 at 5:53 p.m.
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They should completely give up on this season. I'd prefer they flip DeBrusk.


they should not give up in this season per say, we need to win to make the pick to SJ worse, we sell off assets and get younger but if we can extend debrusk, id try to.

However, I still think this package is a bit light, Id prefer Raty over Podkolzin and would add a pick or 2
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Mar. 5 at 5:55 p.m.
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Not a fan of any of these teams and don't have a ton of info on the situation, but man that would be a crazy framework for a deal. Never seen anything like that that I can remember with so many big-name pieces involved in a 3-way trade. That would be insane and so much fun.

Pittsburgh gets two high-ceiling AHL guys that look to be pushing for the NHL very soon, plus a good middle-sixer with time to decide whether to extend or flip him.
Vancouver spends a quality asset to go from a great rental to an elite rental.
Boston gets their center now, upgrading the current roster and without spending picks.

Very creative, I like it. Seems like a fit and a decent framework.
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Mar. 5 at 6:00 p.m.
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No way BOS moves DeBrusk.

PIT retains on Lindholm so does VAN. Knocks Lindholm down to 1.2 mil or something.
PIT retains on Jake so VAN has the space to retain on Lindholm.
Mar. 5 at 6:46 p.m.
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This deal would require Boston to get $850k in retention.
Mar. 5 at 7:17 p.m.
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This deal would require Boston to get $850k in retention.


Ya pretty small amount though which could probably be figured out with some retention somewhere and or some other roster movement on their end.
Mar. 5 at 7:38 p.m.
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they should not give up in this season per say, we need to win to make the pick to SJ worse, we sell off assets and get younger but if we can extend debrusk, id try to.

However, I still think this package is a bit light, Id prefer Raty over Podkolzin and would add a pick or 2


Ya I just see it as a framework. Would be fine with Raty over Podz. Probably some picks/other prospects involved but nothing too major.
Mar. 5 at 7:59 p.m.
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Ya pretty small amount though which could probably be figured out with some retention somewhere and or some other roster movement on their end.


Curious what has more value to Pittsburgh

Debrusk

OR

Grzelcyk and a 2026 2nd

OR

Grzelcyk and the prospect of their choice not named Poitras or Lohrei (Georgii Merkulov or John Farannaci?)

I’d prefer Boston to keep DeBrusk if possible, but doesn’t kill the deal if he’s included
Mar. 5 at 8:07 p.m.
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Curious what has more value to Pittsburgh

Debrusk

OR

Grzelcyk and a 2026 2nd

OR

Grzelcyk and the prospect of their choice not named Poitras or Lohrei( Georgii Merkulov or John Farannaci?)

I’d prefer to keep DeBrusk if possible


Debrusk if we can extend him, if not Merkulov or another prospect and a pick
Mar. 5 at 8:14 p.m.
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Debrusk if we can extend him, if not Merkulov or another prospect and a pick


Curious to see what the offer is, but it kind of makes a ton of sense for all three sides

My assumption is Lysell is the primary target.

If Boston can find a way to keep DeBrusk without including a #1, I think it is more of a no brainer.
Mar. 5 at 8:14 p.m.
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The next couple of days are going to be fun
Mar. 5 at 8:35 p.m.
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Curious to see what the offer is, but it kind of makes a ton of sense for all three sides

My assumption is Lysell is the primary target.

If Boston can find a way to keep DeBrusk without including a #1, I think it is more of a no brainer.


Id have to think it's either Debrusk or the 1st, Their prospect pool isn't good enough IMO for neither to be involved
Mar. 5 at 8:47 p.m.
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Id have to think it's either Debrusk or the 1st, Their prospect pool isn't good enough IMO for neither to be involved


There probably is some discussion on this point. I guess it depends on how you value Jake as a pending UFA.

I want to see what the deal actually is. Like I said, I assume it is built around Lysell.
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Mar. 5 at 11:55 p.m.
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For the record, I believe it is DeBrusk and Lysell for Lindholm with 850k of retention.
 
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