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Created by: Flyers554410

Team: 2017-18 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 17, 2017

Published: Jul. 19, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

PHI

Gallagher, Brendan
Juulsen, Noah
Plekanec, Tomas
2018 1st round pick (MTL)
2020 1st round pick (MTL)

MTL

Buyouts

R.J. Umberger: $1,500,000
Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$66,449,167	$1,062,500	$4,425,000	$8,550,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Konecny, Travis $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) RW, LW UFA - 2	Plekanec, Tomas $3,000,000$3,000,000 C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Filppula, Valtteri $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Patrick, Nolan $925,000$925,000 ($2,650,000$3M) C, RW UFA - 3	Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 7
Lindblom, Oskar $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LW UFA - 3	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 5	Simmonds, Wayne $3,975,000$3,975,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Weal, Jordan $1,750,000$1,750,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Lehterä, Jori $4,700,000$4,700,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Raffl, Michael $2,350,000$2,350,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott $962,500$962,500 C, LW UFA - 2		Weise, Dale $2,350,000$2,350,000 RW, LW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
MacDonald, Andrew $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Provorov, Ivan $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 2	Elliott, Brian $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 6		Neuvirth, Michal $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 2
Hägg, Robert $894,167$894,167 LD UFA - 1	Morin, Samuel $863,333$863,333 ($500,000$500K) LD, LW UFA - 1
Manning, Brandon $975,000$975,000 LD UFA - 1	Gudas, Radko $2,345,000$2,345,000 RD UFA - 3

Jul. 19, 2017 at 4:14 p.m.

MNBassman

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MONSTER overpayment for a declining player!

Jul. 19, 2017 at 4:24 p.m.

phillyjabroni

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Quoting: MNBassman

MONSTER overpayment for a declining player!

MOSNSTER misconception of an above-average player!

Jul. 19, 2017 at 4:44 p.m.

We_Want_The_Cup

GM Game v1 v2

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Giroux is good, I'm sure, but this is an overpayment.

How about Pacioretty and Plek (3M retained) for Giroux and Read (cap-dump negative value)? I ran the numbers, we'd be swallowing 4.4M more cap, and that checks out okay.

Jul. 19, 2017 at 5:00 p.m.

Flyers554410

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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.

Jul. 19, 2017 at 5:09 p.m.

phillyjabroni

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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

more like Lehkonen, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, 2019 1st

Jul. 19, 2017 at 5:16 p.m.

Flyers554410

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Quoting: phillyjabroni

Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

more like Lehkonen, Plekanec, Galchenyuk, 2019 1st

Pass on Galchenyuk. Rather have the 2018 and 2020 1st round pick. The Flyers could wait until 2021 for the 2nd 1st if need be. 2018 1st is key to this deal structure.

Jul. 19, 2017 at 10:24 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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Lol 2 first rd picks for a 29 year old declining center. makes no sense.

Jul. 19, 2017 at 10:33 p.m.

We_Want_The_Cup

GM Game v1 v2

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Quoting: Flyers554410

Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.

Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.

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Jul. 20, 2017 at 11:53 a.m.

Flyers554410

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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

Quoting: Flyers554410

Not interested in Pacioretty. Leave the structure of the deal above together and remove the parts you think are making it an overpayment.

Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.

Montreal Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
2018 First Round Pick
2021 First Round Pick

Flyers Give:
Giroux
Montreal's 7th Rd Pick

You can keep Juulsen and make it a 2021 first since you are a playoff contender.

Jul. 20, 2017 at 2:36 p.m.

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We_Want_The_Cup

GM Game v1 v2

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Quoting: Flyers554410

Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

Here is where we stand right now
1. The structure must remain for you
2. 2018 pick is crucial for you
3. 2018 1st round pick is the key overpayment here for me
4. If we swap the 2018 1st pick for 2018 2nd round pick, then I'd be okay with this.
5. I notice you don't need any salary retaining, but I'd be glad to retain half of Plekanec's contract if you have any other transactions in mind.

MTL Gives:
Plekanec
Gallagher
Juulsen
Conditional 2018 2nd round pick (if Giroux notches under 55pts, then the lower of Chicago's or MTL's 2nd round pick; if notches above 55pts, then higher of CHI's or MTL's 2nd round pick)
2019 or 2020 1st round pick (whichever of the two you prefer)

Honestly if you want that 2018 first round pick, you have to remove the other pick, 'cause you and I know that draft is deep and even playoff contenders like us can get something good.

Removing Juulsen does make things more bearable. I can consider this trade, though I'd have to think long and hard if I want to make such a sacrifice.

Jul. 20, 2017 at 3:38 p.m.

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Flyers554410

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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

Removing Juulsen does make things more bearable. I can consider this trade, though I'd have to think long and hard if I want to make such a sacrifice.

Hopefully Bergevin is thinking short and soft and accepts the original deal.

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