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Edvinsson-Karlsson

Created by: SweetRevenge19
Team: 2024-25 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 23, 2024
Published: Mar. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,750,000
3$4,250,000
3$1,250,000
3$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$5,000,000
3$7,500,000
1$1,125,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
2.
DET
  1. Gibson, John ($1,400,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Husso, Ville
  2. Niederbach, Theodor [Reserve List]
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (DET)
  4. 2025 4th round pick (BOS)
3.
DET
  1. 2024 5th round pick (NSH)
CHI
  1. Smith, Reilly
  2. 2024 4th round pick (DAL)
4.
DET
  1. 2025 6th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NSH)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$87,629,306$0$1,850,000$70,694
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LW, C
UFA
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 7
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
RFA
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW
UFA
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C
RFA
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$878,333$878,333
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 2
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$905,833$905,833
LW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
RFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1

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Mar. 23 at 11:28 p.m.
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Dumping Husso AND paying for retention costs way more than that.
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Mar. 23 at 11:34 p.m.
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I think remove Holl and Smith from that and it would be good.
Mar. 23 at 11:37 p.m.
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Pittsburgh doesn't do that, Detroit doesn't either. That contract would hinder signing our RFA's which you greatly underpaid.
Anaheim doesn't do that I would expect.
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Mar. 23 at 11:40 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Dumping Husso AND paying for retention costs way more than that.

I didn’t want any retention but needed to the way this roster is built. I don’t think Husso is a pure dump as he’s shown to be quality outside of this years groin injury. The idea was getting draft picks and cap flexibility with dece fill in starter replacement for Ducks. But I think you’re right, probably a bit light on return, what would you add?
Mar. 24 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Pittsburgh doesn't do that, Detroit doesn't either. That contract would hinder signing our RFA's which you greatly underpaid.
Anaheim doesn't do that I would expect.

Pittsburgh sheds a ton of salary to retool with and gets back nearly what they gave up in the trade, why wouldn’t they do it? I think Karlsson would be a great fit on the wings as good pairing with Edvinsson and mentor as well, while an upgrade over Ghost on PP. Not that worried about the contract as Karlsson, Copp, Cat, Stamkos, Gibson, Seider, and Raymond all have the same expiring term and Maata, Petry, Walman, and Abdelkader would already be off the books. I disagree with everyone on here overpaying Seider and Raymond with 8 year $7/8 million deals and dismiss all those ACGM. These two contracts are a lot closer to what they actually will get just you wait and see. Maybe they get a little more I’ll concede, but anyone who has paid attention to Yzerman’s GM career knows he does bridge deals and is stubborn as hell on $ amount to young players. Sergachev got $4.8x3 before getting $8.5x8 for example. Kucherov got 4.76x3 before getting $9.5x8. We’re not Buffalo or Ottawa, these guys aren’t going anywhere.
Mar. 24 at 1:22 a.m.
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Pass on paying $10M for Ghost-on-steroids.
Mar. 24 at 2:02 a.m.
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Quoting: FriendlyGhost
Pass on paying $10M for Ghost-on-steroids.

Pass on all your hockey takes
Mar. 24 at 2:23 a.m.
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
Pittsburgh sheds a ton of salary to retool with and gets back nearly what they gave up in the trade, why wouldn’t they do it? I think Karlsson would be a great fit on the wings as good pairing with Edvinsson and mentor as well, while an upgrade over Ghost on PP. Not that worried about the contract as Karlsson, Copp, Cat, Stamkos, Gibson, Seider, and Raymond all have the same expiring term and Maata, Petry, Walman, and Abdelkader would already be off the books. I disagree with everyone on here overpaying Seider and Raymond with 8 year $7/8 million deals and dismiss all those ACGM. These two contracts are a lot closer to what they actually will get just you wait and see. Maybe they get a little more I’ll concede, but anyone who has paid attention to Yzerman’s GM career knows he does bridge deals and is stubborn as hell on $ amount to young players. Sergachev got $4.8x3 before getting $8.5x8 for example. Kucherov got 4.76x3 before getting $9.5x8. We’re not Buffalo or Ottawa, these guys aren’t going anywhere.


I don't disagree with your assessment on the Yzerman contracts, Point is another one and even the Debrincat contact is proof of that. That said, I feel this team would be much better locking these guys up long term and maybe sacrificing the next season or two in order to be alot more competitive in years prior. You can look at those deals and say pretty easily that it's what Yzerman does. My argument is that it was a different time, more flat cap, and a different team, a legitimate Stanley Cup contender who almost had a 3-peat. There might have been a desire for these guys to take slight discounts to stay together. I would look at Brayden Point's bridge as a better comparable for Raymond. Also take into account the percentage of the cap the deal takes. Raymond, if compared to Kucherov would need 5.7M to be a similar contract. Brayden Point would be 7M. I used comparables of Boldy, Caufield, Cozens and Svechnikov for Raymond and Heiskenen and Power for Seider. I guess it all determines in which way you want the team to go, get a bit better for the short term but possibly lose out in the long term of those guys grow beyond what they could be signed for long term. Or sacrifice a bit in the short term in hopes that those long term deals will provide great value in the long run.
As for Karlsson, I personally feel like I would rather Edvinsson partner with a more defensively responsible player instead of trying to have to cover for him all the time. I think that would help him grow his game a bit more, which I believe is a bit more of a two way style, than force him to make defensive plays he probably isn't ready for. I would look at Roy, Pesce or Tanev as guys I would want him to be partnered with. I could see the desire for Simon though, Karlsson was probably a hero for him growing up.
No idea what will happen with Stamkos but I do know that he would get the same money after taxes in Tampa if he signed for 7M. I could see him taking a bit of a discount to stay in Tampa.
Also to note, Yzerman didn't sign Sergachev, he was already in Detroit when that deal was signed.
Mar. 24 at 3:21 a.m.
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Ducks aren't retaining for 3 years on Gibson. LOL

Who do you think Verbeek is, Mike Grier?
Mar. 24 at 3:25 a.m.
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
Pass on all your hockey takes


I'll pass on all of yours.

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Mar. 24 at 10:08 a.m.
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Hawks decline. They aren't giving up anything in a Smith trade. Smith takes a 2nd or a 3rd to dump in Chicago.
 
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