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Younger next year

Created by: Oilfan1717
Team: 2024-25 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 15, 2024
Published: Apr. 15, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
2$1,250,000
3$775,000
7$4,285,714
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
3$1,750,000
3$1,333,333
4$3,250,000
1$1,000,000
5$4,400,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Durzi, Sean [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (EDM)
ARI
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2026 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. 2024 4th round pick (CAR)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (CAR)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the BOS
2025
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the EDM
2026
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the EDM
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$87,750,000$87,135,714$3,450,000$0$614,286
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RW, LW
UFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW
UFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,333,333$1,333,333
RD
UFA

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Apr. 15 at 5:41 a.m.
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Overall a solid AGM! I'm particularly keen on your choice of Carrier, your line combos, and your overall goal of getting younger. That being said, there are a few things I'd change:

1.) I'd say you're overpaying Debrusk (~400k), Pickard (~600k), Holloway (~600k), Desharnais (~500k), & Lavoie (~200k) given the context of the term you've offered each of them
2.) I'd say you're underpaying Durzi by around 1mil and don't think SLC will make him available, at least not for that. I'd also rather use that money to target A. Carrier in UFA
3.) I don't imagine Broberg agrees to a 3-year deal and as such would likely end up on a similar deal to the one I proposed Holloway gets (900k * 2yrs). Saves another 400k
4.) That factors out to ~2.7mil in what I'd deem overpayments. For the sake of argument, I'll grant you either the Durzi acq. as listed or that Carrier (or similar) would cost ~4.25mil

Using those savings, I'd prioritise dressing at least a 22-man roster by adding 2 FAs (ideally below age 30), swapping Carrick out for Laczynski, and maybe finding an upgrade on Fischer. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamblin ended up back in EDM next year, either.
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Apr. 15 at 7:09 a.m.
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Overall a solid AGM! I'm particularly keen on your choice of Carrier, your line combos, and your overall goal of getting younger. That being said, there are a few things I'd change:

1.) I'd say you're overpaying Debrusk (~400k), Pickard (~600k), Holloway (~600k), Desharnais (~500k), & Lavoie (~200k) given the context of the term you've offered each of them
2.) I'd say you're underpaying Durzi by around 1mil and don't think SLC will make him available, at least not for that. I'd also rather use that money to target A. Carrier in UFA
3.) I don't imagine Broberg agrees to a 3-year deal and as such would likely end up on a similar deal to the one I proposed Holloway gets (900k * 2yrs). Saves another 400k
4.) That factors out to ~2.7mil in what I'd deem overpayments. For the sake of argument, I'll grant you either the Durzi acq. as listed or that Carrier (or similar) would cost ~4.25mil

Using those savings, I'd prioritise dressing at least a 22-man roster by adding 2 FAs (ideally below age 30), swapping Carrick out for Laczynski, and maybe finding an upgrade on Fischer. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamblin ended up back in EDM next year, either.

$1.75M for Carrier is too much, not sure why you're so enthusiastic about that signing.

And if Durzi is worth only $4-5M x 5, he sure isn't worth Kulak + two 1sts. That's more than Edmonton paid for Ekholm, for goodness sake.

And Ceci is worth more than a 5th.
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Apr. 15 at 8:18 a.m.
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$1.75M for Carrier is too much, not sure why you're so enthusiastic about that signing.

And if Durzi is worth only $4-5M x 5, he sure isn't worth Kulak + two 1sts. That's more than Edmonton paid for Ekholm, for goodness sake.

And Ceci is worth more than a 5th.

Carrier is one of the rare bottom-6 forwards that consistently contributes to outchancing and outscoring while also being a physical, forechecking presence. He's a wonderfully effective player. Would be a great player for either or both of Lavoie and Hamblin to play with/learn from and would be entirely worth a 1.75mil cap hit for a couple years.

Durzi is probably worth between 5.25 and 5.75mil on that term. As for the picks, you're willfully misrepresenting the return as the author's trade includes picks coming back. So it's Kulak and 3 total rounds of trade-ups for Durzi. The return for Ekholm was FAR more than that.

A 5th as a return for Ceci is plenty reasonable in my eyes. He's not the cap dump some people make him out to be but whatever his trade value is will be hurt by the fact that, if EDM doesn't win the Cup, there'll be pressure to upgrade at that position in particular.
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Apr. 15 at 3:20 p.m.
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Carrier is one of the rare bottom-6 forwards that consistently contributes to outchancing and outscoring while also being a physical, forechecking presence. He's a wonderfully effective player. Would be a great player for either or both of Lavoie and Hamblin to play with/learn from and would be entirely worth a 1.75mil cap hit for a couple years.

Durzi is probably worth between 5.25 and 5.75mil on that term. As for the picks, you're willfully misrepresenting the return as the author's trade includes picks coming back. So it's Kulak and 3 total rounds of trade-ups for Durzi. The return for Ekholm was FAR more than that.

A 5th as a return for Ceci is plenty reasonable in my eyes. He's not the cap dump some people make him out to be but whatever his trade value is will be hurt by the fact that, if EDM doesn't win the Cup, there'll be pressure to upgrade at that position in particular.

Edmonton doesn't have to move Ceci though, he's an effective top-4 defender. With RHD being currency in this league, I would think a top-4 RHD with 1 year left could get reasonable value from one of the many teams that require a top-4 RHD. Any GM accepting a 5th for Ceci simply isn't very good at their job. Kulak (a lefty) went for a 2nd, he's not as valuable as Ceci and plays a thoroughly diluted position.

Ristolainen got a 1st + 2nd + Hagg with 1 year left at $5.4M. Sure it was an overpay, but that's top-4 RHD for you. Accepting a 5th for Ceci is just stupid asset management.
Apr. 15 at 8:35 p.m.
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Edmonton doesn't have to move Ceci though, he's an effective top-4 defender. With RHD being currency in this league, I would think a top-4 RHD with 1 year left could get reasonable value from one of the many teams that require a top-4 RHD. Any GM accepting a 5th for Ceci simply isn't very good at their job. Kulak (a lefty) went for a 2nd, he's not as valuable as Ceci and plays a thoroughly diluted position.

Ristolainen got a 1st + 2nd + Hagg with 1 year left at $5.4M. Sure it was an overpay, but that's top-4 RHD for you. Accepting a 5th for Ceci is just stupid asset management.


I couldn’t find a way to keep Ceci and stay under the cap. I’d rather Ceci than VD, but the numbers didnt work.
Apr. 15 at 10:16 p.m.
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Overall a solid AGM! I'm particularly keen on your choice of Carrier, your line combos, and your overall goal of getting younger. That being said, there are a few things I'd change:

1.) I'd say you're overpaying Debrusk (~400k), Pickard (~600k), Holloway (~600k), Desharnais (~500k), & Lavoie (~200k) given the context of the term you've offered each of them
2.) I'd say you're underpaying Durzi by around 1mil and don't think SLC will make him available, at least not for that. I'd also rather use that money to target A. Carrier in UFA
3.) I don't imagine Broberg agrees to a 3-year deal and as such would likely end up on a similar deal to the one I proposed Holloway gets (900k * 2yrs). Saves another 400k
4.) That factors out to ~2.7mil in what I'd deem overpayments. For the sake of argument, I'll grant you either the Durzi acq. as listed or that Carrier (or similar) would cost ~4.25mil

Using those savings, I'd prioritise dressing at least a 22-man roster by adding 2 FAs (ideally below age 30), swapping Carrick out for Laczynski, and maybe finding an upgrade on Fischer. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamblin ended up back in EDM next year, either.


Quoting: SupremeBone
Overall a solid AGM! I'm particularly keen on your choice of Carrier, your line combos, and your overall goal of getting younger. That being said, there are a few things I'd change:

1.) I'd say you're overpaying Debrusk (~400k), Pickard (~600k), Holloway (~600k), Desharnais (~500k), & Lavoie (~200k) given the context of the term you've offered each of them
2.) I'd say you're underpaying Durzi by around 1mil and don't think SLC will make him available, at least not for that. I'd also rather use that money to target A. Carrier in UFA
3.) I don't imagine Broberg agrees to a 3-year deal and as such would likely end up on a similar deal to the one I proposed Holloway gets (900k * 2yrs). Saves another 400k
4.) That factors out to ~2.7mil in what I'd deem overpayments. For the sake of argument, I'll grant you either the Durzi acq. as listed or that Carrier (or similar) would cost ~4.25mil

Using those savings, I'd prioritise dressing at least a 22-man roster by adding 2 FAs (ideally below age 30), swapping Carrick out for Laczynski, and maybe finding an upgrade on Fischer. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamblin ended up back in EDM next year, either.


Thanks for the feedback - I modified a few of the contracts downwards and re-signed Warren Foegelle. I’m happy with the team, although I’m concerned that so few of the players shoot right. Also, I’m right at the cap with 20 players.
Apr. 16 at 8:23 a.m.
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I couldn’t find a way to keep Ceci and stay under the cap. I’d rather Ceci than VD, but the numbers didnt work.


Sure, but that doesn't mean you move him for less than FMV.
Apr. 16 at 4:02 p.m.
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Sure, but that doesn't mean you move him for less than FMV.


I changed the deal to Ceci to Carolina for a 2025 second and a 2024 fourth. Could be a viable deal if they move on from Pesce.
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