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Team: 2024-25 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 23, 2024
Published: Apr. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$5,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,200,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
1$1,500,000
1$1,050,000
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$88,525,714$850,000$600,000-$825,714
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 4
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
RFA
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW
RFA
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
$1,050,000$1,050,000
C, RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$8,050,000$8,050,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
RFA
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 1

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Apr. 23 at 9:12 a.m.
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Hockey IQ
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I accept that trade for PIT
Apr. 23 at 9:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I accept that trade for PIT


You trust that Norris will be healthy? Dude’s had 3 major shoulder injuries and is on a massive ticket 😬
Apr. 23 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I accept that trade for PIT


I don't. Even with their unspectacular seasons, Karlsson and Jarry are better than Chychrun and Korpisalo.

Per Evolving-Hockey, The Sens allowed 0.38 more goals against /60 with Chychrun on the ice then their average. Karlsson's defense is nothing to write home about, but he's not even close to that. The Pens allowed 0.02 goals against/60 *less* with EK on the ice than off. It also leaves the Pens with a chasm at RHD. We have like 5 righties in the system right now, and I think we'd get the best results from Chychrun by playing him on the left.

And Chychrun's defensive results are not helped by Korpisalo. By EH's model, Korpi's -13.18 GSAx was the NHL's worst. By Money-Puck's model, he allowed -16.1 GSAx, 2nd worst. By contrast, Jarry saved 11.78 and 2.6 GSAx respectively. Neither are great for what we're paying him, but significantly better than Korpisalo.

And yeah, EK and Jars are more expensive than Chychrun and Korpisalo, but the addition of Norris makes it so that Pittsburgh is taking on around $1M in cap space. Norris has high upside, but the risk from his health issues is just as high. If he doesn't bounce back, we'd be paying a ~50 point guy like an ~80 point guy.

Swapping defensemen and goaltending makes the Pens worse in the short term, and Norris is a huge risk that even if it pays off, is going to be stuck here throughout a rebuild instead of being on a contender. It's not worth it.
Apr. 23 at 10:09 a.m.
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OTT declines, that would not get chych or norris yet alone both. OTT has zero interest in EK
Apr. 23 at 11:36 a.m.
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Ottawa is giving up way too much
Apr. 23 at 1:40 p.m.
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the pens are taking back way too much potential bad cap here.

I'd much rather have EK than Norris.
I would also rather keep Jarry over Korpisalo.

Say what you want on EK, that contract ends in 3 years. that Norris contract goes forever and is a potential bomb.
Jarry is moveable without taking cap back. There are plenty of teams looking for a goalie right now. If they wanted to move him they could, just not for the return they would want.
I don't think they do. I think they keep him and let him mentor Blom. Blom is on the cheap for 2 more years, and it makes the cap his for goalies nothing for PIT.
Maybe next year they move Jarry.
Apr. 23 at 3:36 p.m.
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Ottawa is giving up way too much


do you think there's any chance OTT would be open to moving Norris? and if so what would they be looking for in return?
 
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