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Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 23, 2024
Published: Apr. 23, 2024
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20$83,500,000$83,244,166$20,000$950,000$255,834
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$835,833$835,833
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
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UFA - 8
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$825,000$825,000
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$550,000$550K)
C
RFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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UFA - 5
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$775,000$775,000
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RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
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Apr. 23 at 12:44 p.m.
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When are we going to drop this whole thing? Just getting annoying at this point
Apr. 23 at 12:45 p.m.
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Future Norris guy
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Walman > Leddy.

Krug only waives to be near his Detroit home, He's not waiving for Vegas when he and his wife need to be close to their parents.

None of those trades are remotely realistic, All teams not named St Louis pass.
Apr. 23 at 12:48 p.m.
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If your aunt Barb had balls she'd be your uncle Bob.
Apr. 23 at 12:50 p.m.
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Eh looking back on things like this has never made sense to me.

Walman, Barbashev, Joshua and Dunn never become those players if they stayed in St.Louis, it just wasn't a fit for them and that's ok. You could do this for every single team in the league, no point in dreading over it
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Apr. 23 at 1:16 p.m.
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Good Opinion Haver
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Edited Apr. 23 at 1:27 p.m.
Quoting: NucksnOilers
Eh looking back on things like this has never made sense to me.

Walman, Barbashev, Joshua and Dunn never become those players if they stayed in St.Louis, it just wasn't a fit for them and that's ok. You could do this for every single team in the league, no point in dreading over it


Usually I agree these exercises can turn into nonsense, and I do agree when it comes to the forwards. However:

Dunn, Walman and I would argue Mikkola all leveled up after leaving St. Louis. You could make an argument that they all had similar opportunities here that they eventually had in Florida, Detroit and Seattle. Dunn was on the championship roster. They tried Mikkola and Walman a bunch of times in the top six before finally trading for Leddy. They COULD have become that here.

It's easy to turn around and blame the players or the circumstances in that case, but if you let go of three defensemen that all play three very different styles, and they all go on to be better/more relied upon players on three different teams, and the common refrain is "well they never could have become that here" (where "here" is a team that's been weak on defense since 2020), that's not on the players at that point. You have a development issue somewhere.

The Blues have not developed a defenseman they felt comfortable consistently playing in their top 4 since Colton Parayko, and this exercise shows us it's not because they haven't had them.
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Apr. 23 at 1:25 p.m.
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If only the Blues never traded for Brett Hull or Adam Oates...
Apr. 23 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Walman > Leddy.

Krug only waives to be near his Detroit home, He's not waiving for Vegas when he and his wife need to be close to their parents.

None of those trades are remotely realistic, All teams not named St Louis pass.


Is this sarcasm?
Apr. 23 at 1:37 p.m.
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Is this sarcasm?


Hardly, It's based on facts.
Apr. 23 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Hardly, It's based on facts.


You do realize these are real trade proposals right? Like this is just a what could’ve been
Apr. 24 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
When are we going to drop this whole thing? Just getting annoying at this point


im just saying people dont talk enough on how bad of a job doug has done
Apr. 24 at 9:27 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Walman > Leddy.

Krug only waives to be near his Detroit home, He's not waiving for Vegas when he and his wife need to be close to their parents.

None of those trades are remotely realistic, All teams not named St Louis pass.


its just hypothetical landing spot. just saying Krug wouldn't be on the team
 
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